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Why The Original Trilogy Wasn't Much Better Than The Prequels

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Why The Original Trilogy Wasn't Much Better Than The Prequels

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Aleastor
02.12.2012 , 01:23 PM | #21
Very well written post man, I completely agree with you.

I love Starwars, including the prequel trilogy. Yes some of it's campy but that's the whole appeal in my eyes. Starwars is about epic Jedi, smarta** sharpshooters, enigmatic villains, bad a** bountyhunters and quirky aliens. If someone doesn't like it, ignore it.
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eadnams
02.12.2012 , 02:00 PM | #22
I think we can all agree that the less George Lucas has to do with a Star Wars franchise, the better it is. (ex: Clone Wars TV show, KOTORs, et al).

I do LOVE the Prequels production design tho. Naboo Fighters are still my all time favs.

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ptwonline
02.12.2012 , 02:08 PM | #23
Originals are way better.

Forget storylines, dialogue, acting, special effects, camerawork...forget all that for a moment. Think about what the originals have that the prequels do not. The originals are fun and the actors/characters have great chemistry. Moreover it has the one truly great movie of the entire series: The Empire Strikes Back. While it retains little-kid appeal, it is also the most adult drama of the series, and it's this serious, effective, and dramatic approach that the 4 movies after it seemed to mostly lose that has most Star Wars fans grumbling. After all, even original trilogy fans like Return of the Jedi the least of those 3 movies.

Think about the best-received of the prequels: Revenge of the Sith. Why? Because it dumped most of the kiddie elements of the first two and tried to be a more adult drama. But it still lacks the chemistry between actors and characters that the originals had. Obi Wan and Anakin never have the buddy chemistry of Han and Chewie, or Han and luke. Anakin and Padme don't have a romance with the kind of appeal that Han and Leia had. The revolving door of bad guys can't hold a candle to the orginal trilogy's Darth Vader.

When it comes to writing and story, the originals are much simpler and IMO much more effective because their simplicity doesn't crush the movies under their weight like it does in the overly-complex prequels. With complex stories you need to tell those stories very well. The prequels weren't even close to the level needed. In terms of moviemaking, the originals were also better because they used physical sets and used the space they had more effectively. The green screen really seems to have limited the actors and the director in the prequels. Instead of worrying about important things like getting good composition, it looks like he just shot stuff thinking that he could fix it up with the SFX.

And the dialogue...ugh. Originals aren't exactly Shakespeare or even Tarentino, but the dialogue is mostly kept sparse and witty, and works quite well. In the prequels they talk and talk and talk and it gets so boring, not to mention often cringeworthy ("I'm haunted by the kiss you should never have given me"), laughable ("Unlimited powerrrrrr!" "Noooooo!") or even downright insulting to our intelligence ("A Sith LORD?"...yeah, the one you've been looking for all this time while simultaneously suspecting the Emperor of being up to no good, you dingbat).

Honestly, the prequels don't hold a candle to the likability and the fun of the originals. The originals are for the most part decently well-made. The prequels are awful moviemaking, saved only by big budgets and the Star Wars IP.

Put in the hands of a more skilled or a more focused director and the prequels could have actually been very good. The bond between Obi-Wan and Anakin being broken and Anakin's fall to the darkside could have been incredible drama. Instead we get...this.

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jarjarloves
02.12.2012 , 02:09 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
So then where did this come from?



Had to have come from some source of valid information, otherwise I really doubt it would be there. But then again I should have been more clear, the AT-STs were the ones that were wrecking the Ewoks.
I don't know where did you find it?


edit: Oh I should have known you got it from Wookipedia.

yeah Wookipedia isn't held up to the same standards as Wikipedia. That is one guys fanboy interpretation of what happened.

For example he calls the troops on Endor part of Tempest squad. Do you know where they got the info from that they where Tempest Squad?

It's not from the movies or the books it's from the Collectible Card Game.

The passages I posted on the previous page are every part of the Battle of Endor where the Ewoks are involved. I left out the parts with Han and Leia, The space Battle, and Luke and Vader.

So it's clear from the movie and the official novelization that at no point did the Storm troopers kick the Ewoks butt. The Ewoks kicked the crap out of the storm troopers it even says they kicked so much butt that CHEWBACCA was inspired BY THEM. They where taking AT-ST's down left and right.

So yeah wookiepdia tends to feed fanboys that article was clearly written by some fan boy who had a Hard on for stormtroopers and the empire and couldn't accept that they got beat by a bunch of teddy bears.

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Darth_Urtani
02.12.2012 , 02:12 PM | #25
The OT is better, how do I know? Because I enjoy watching the movies, and it's not a cringe fest like with the PT.
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tekkamansoul
02.12.2012 , 04:25 PM | #26
So you're raging about a humorous, obviously over-embellished review from Youtube?

If someone doesn't like something, of course they're gonna ***** about it. You just proved this with your post, OP. And for the record, there's a difference between plot holes and adding/removing action to increase tension.

The review is wrong on certain points, but the reviewer is also a psychopath that keeps women locked in his basement, if you believe everything that video portrays.

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kraidy
02.12.2012 , 04:57 PM | #27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEanZ-Ex5Uw

This scene alone was better then anything in that crappy pos called the PT.

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TheLonelyTusken
02.12.2012 , 05:00 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by eadnams View Post
I think we can all agree that the less George Lucas has to do with a Star Wars franchise, the better it is. (ex: Clone Wars TV show, KOTORs, et al).

I do LOVE the Prequels production design tho. Naboo Fighters are still my all time favs.
George Lucas does have a lot to do with the TV series, he helps craft most of the story and before each is finished he looks it over to see if everything is canon and to his liking.

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Fomorii
02.12.2012 , 05:45 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by eadnams View Post
Original Trilogy has nostalgia, tha'ts about it. Other than that, Lucas continued where he left off in 3-6, but the audience had grown up/changed expectations.
You make it sound like millions of adults wern't in love with the original trilogy. Regardless of similar failings, the original trilogy is beloved and the prequels are widely viewed as trash.
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Clawdaddy
02.12.2012 , 07:10 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Amalice View Post
I remember when Star Wars first came out. I saw it 29 times the first week. For that era it was greater than even Avatar was for this modern time. If you are not old enough to have seen the movies when they first came out you will not understand.
Hear hear! You nailed, exactly. I was five in 1977 and went to Star Wars with my uncle, who was awesome. If you didn't live in the mire that was 70's special effects, you can't possibly begin to fathom how enormously EPIC Star Wars was. When the Death Star blew up, the audience cheered. CHEERED! There was hootin and hollerin that I've never witnessed since.

There is no comparison which trilogy had the bigger social and pop culture impact. They're night and day.