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Allow us to play without companions.

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Allow us to play without companions.

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Siorac
02.12.2012 , 11:52 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Coiffio View Post
No one said get rid of companions, the suggestion was simply to make gameplay a bit more viable if one chooses not to use them, if you like them fine, keep using them, it affects you in no shape or form if such a thing were done. Also mmos are an ever changing entity. I've played them long enough to know that when it's required, a game will change, perhaps not for the better, sometimes for the better but they do change. You already got people complaining about the cross server dungeon finder that some players swore up and down would never happen here.
Please tell us how to implement such a thing when the entire game and the difficulty of all fights are designed around having companions.

Quote: Originally Posted by ShonaChaos View Post
What would be even cooler, would be if my companion was like a real person... like in a real MMO.
Yeah, what exactly stops you from grouping up with someone else? I can even show you the button in the game if you wish.

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DragonAgeOrgins
02.12.2012 , 11:52 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Coiffio View Post
No one said get rid of companions, the suggestion was simply to make gameplay a bit more viable if one chooses not to use them, if you like them fine, keep using them, it affects you in no shape or form if such a thing were done. Also mmos are an ever changing entity. I've played them long enough to know that when it's required, a game will change, perhaps not for the better, sometimes for the better but they do change. You already got people complaining about the cross server dungeon finder that some players swore up and down would never happen here.
Are you serious, I would love to have what you guys are smoking. It's not enough we have companion's that speak to us interact on a personal level and even have their own personal side mission which is optional. It's not enough they fill different roles "Ranged Tank, Healer, DPS" now you want to change the game play.

I played MMO's for a long time too, everquest. Then Warcraft that doesn't exactly make you an expert. All warcraft did to "change' was slap the xbox360 "achievements" and used an add on to make in "quest finder" nothing really to cheer about.

You people will complain about anything. In Fail-Craft we had NO compainon's the closest thing we got to that was a PET and this pet sure didn't heal me during a fight or take threat. It was stated a billion times in detail about the compainin system, and what they could do. You are speaking for maybe about 10 people out of a million.

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bellok
02.12.2012 , 11:52 AM | #53
I know for a fact you can lvl all the way from lvl 10-50 by only running warzones. Perhaps if you don't want to run with companions you can just lvl all the way up to 50 and then do all of your class quests......

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Fumanchu_Fow
02.12.2012 , 11:54 AM | #54
The only AI change I see needed is to give companions enough common sense to stop standing in AE damage abilities. I get annoyed when I have to toggle them to passive and back to get them to stop standing in fire. Changing the game to be played without them is just a foolish request as companions go to the core of what this game is. You can't sit there and say they are useless and then in the same post say without them you can't complete content. If they were useless you wouldn't even need to request that they change the system as it is since you would see no change in difficulty with or without a companion.

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Jesmcalli
02.12.2012 , 11:54 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Maidel View Post
Do you have to 'babysit' your own character? I mean it has less ai than a turnip...

I have almost no issues with companions. Sure doc doesn't move around corners so mt healing stops occasionally, but that's about it. You have full control over which abilities they use by turning the little squares on and off, you have 2 stances for them to use.

Frankly this is just ridiculous, they arent dumb, they are micro manageable if you want and are 'half' of your character. Don't think of them as another characters, rather as your second playable character.
I don't want to micromanage them, especially when they often don't respond to said micromanagement in the first place. Speaking of doc, want to know how many times he's died to AOE from elites because I told him to move and he stood there like a brick ( and yes, I put him on passive to get him to come to me)? I've lost count. That is the kind of aggravating nonsense I am talking about. With the bugginess of the crtl-number commands ( locking your character in autorun etc etc), using those is hit and miss. Not to mention, I have 4 bars full of hotkeys I already use on a regular basis, I'd need another set of arms and hands to throw a 5th bar in ( thanks to the lack of macros).

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LogicalPremise
02.12.2012 , 11:55 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Jesmcalli View Post
So, because I don't mindlessly say " GJ BIOWARE, EVERYTHING IS GREAT!" I'm a troll? Okay then.
Hardly. But your posts all have the same common factor that defines the very worst elements of this board:

1) badly thought out and pointless demands that are either completely unworkable or outright make no sense

2) a sense that because it's a problem for you it must be a problem for everyone, even if the problem is so trivial that literally you are the only person who says it's a problem

3) A ready willingness to dip to complaining that anyone who disagrees with you is wrong.


As to your "suggestion",

There is nothing - wrong - with - the - AI. Khem Val tanks better than the majority of the so-called tanks who inevitably manage to aggro the entire damned planet that are controlled by people, as long as you have the common sense to turn off his AoE effects which are not that good anyway. Revel and Vette DPS better and more evenly than most of the pew-pew-pew BH and I don't have to watch them float up in the air all the time spamming DFA and TM. Doc and Talos are better healers than the people who usually end up letting me get killed in FP because instead of healing the tank they are off loldpsing or , worse , trying to keep the DPS up who refuses to let me build threat.

If you can't figure out how to use them, that's your failing. Not the game's. Not the AI's. Yours. I'm no big fan of SWTOR so far, given all of it's myriad of failings, but that very simply isn't one of them.
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Gharlane
02.12.2012 , 11:55 AM | #57
Sooo there "useless" but at the same time they make such a HUGE difference you can't level without them ? Make up your mind... horrible pointless thread.

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bellok
02.12.2012 , 11:55 AM | #58
I know for a fact you can lvl all the way from lvl 10-50 by only running warzones. Perhaps if you don't want to run with companions you can just lvl all the way up to 50 and then do all of your class quests......

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ShonaChaos
02.12.2012 , 11:56 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by bellok View Post
I know for a fact you can lvl all the way from lvl 10-50 by only running warzones. Perhaps if you don't want to run with companions you can just lvl all the way up to 50 and then do all of your class quests......
Cool alternative, lame arena for 40 levels. i can barely wait to play huttball for 40 levels and get squashed by everyone higher level than me for the next umm... i think it takes 4 hours to level from 10-50?

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Jesmcalli
02.12.2012 , 11:56 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Valkirus View Post
Lol! You are the real person behind your companions. They will behave the way you set them to.
No, no they don't. That is the main problem. They are unresponsive oftentimes, and do what they're told too late for it matter.