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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Vulgarr
02.12.2012 , 10:54 AM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by Ethern View Post
Nonsense. Stop trolling. Prove that it is a community oriented game or shut up.

Facts:
Bioware announced in 2009 that this game would also be for working dads with limited playtime who can't sign for countless hours of chat just to experience the content. A cross server tool is the continuity and the solution for them. link? also, they have already done this because i can get groups without a LFG cross server tool right now during my normal playtimes, which is usually in the middle of the night
- there is no social games. Social Interaction
Main article: Social Interaction via MMORPGs

MMORPGs almost always have tools to facilitate communication between players. Many MMORPGs offer support for in-game guilds or clans (though these will usually form whether the game supports them or not).

In addition, most MMOs require some degree of teamwork for parts of the game. These tasks usually require players to take on roles in the group, such as those protecting other players from damage (called tanking), "healing" damage done to other players or damaging enemies.

MMORPGs generally have Game Moderators or Game Masters (frequently abbreviated to GM), who may be paid employees or unpaid volunteers who attempt to supervise the world. Some GMs may have additional access to features and information related to the game that are not available to other players and roles. source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massive...e-playing_game

you play MMOS and you think there are no social games? really?


- there is no community efforts required outside of group PvE content. this statement proves that you have no idea what a community is.

- stop trolling. you don't know what you are talking about.
this troll deserves a 2/10.

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Darkulous
02.12.2012 , 10:55 AM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by Khardune View Post
like cross-server circle jerks?
better than circle spamming trade channels jerky LFG ....uh... whatevers.... for an hour.
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Grecanis
02.12.2012 , 10:55 AM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by Ethern View Post
That's one of the worst argument. Community element is not required to make a mere flashpoint of experience the content. PuG'ing is not an anormal way to play a MMO. Prejudices and misconceptions are strong in this one.

As for the choice, I'm all for it and that's what we suggested in the 1000+ posts thread about the LFG tool.
Heh ..suppose I should have snipped the first half of that quote.

And I don't necessarily agree with the second half either, but it's as close to a "legitimate" reason as I've seen. (my point)

So yeah, giving players the choice seems the most prudent course of action.
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Vulgarr
02.12.2012 , 10:57 AM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by Ethern View Post
That's one of the worst argument. Community element is not required to make a mere flashpoint of experience the content. PuG'ing is not an anormal way to play a MMO. Prejudices and misconceptions are strong in this one.

As for the choice, I'm all for it and that's what we suggested in the 1000+ posts thread about the LFG tool.
no.

the community element is there for when we get out of flashpoints with people like you and inform the community of what you did to deserve ostracism.

you really didnt read my post earlier that you were bashing did you?

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Vulgarr
02.12.2012 , 10:59 AM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by gregordunbar View Post
The game is completely lacking in a community already, people already ninja and accountablity is non-existant ALREADY. What are you going to do, stand in the fleet and spam to a few dozen people that so-and-so is a ninja? as if the other 99.9% of the players are going to find out about it? Are you going to go to EVERY single planet and spam it there as well to try to get the word out? Ask people to do it? No one cares what happened to YOUR group.

Give me a break people. You dont like the idea of a LFD? Dont use it, spam for LFG like you are now. Your problem IS NOT that there may be a LFD tool, YOUR problem is that Bioware made a Single player RPG with online capabilites and not a full fledged MMORPG.

Enjoy your instanced zones that rarely ever have a decent amount of people in them and stop trying to limit those that are trying to get around that design and pretend this is a normal MMO by finding groups easier.
people already do.

just because you dont doesnt mean its not happening.

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grueber
02.12.2012 , 11:13 AM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlacke View Post
Says who, you?

I have nothing against a LFD tool unless it's a cross server garbage.
Says Stephen Reid at Bioware:

http://toroz.com.au/2012/02/stephen-...ry-transcript/

Simon – Any plans for an LFG tool?
SR: Definitely being looked at including cross-server Flashpoint tool. Definitely wanting to do.

If you LFD haters could learn to follow forum threads you would already know.

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--Gunner--
02.12.2012 , 11:21 AM | #207
Im tired of sitting in the fleet trying to form a group when my guilds not on. At least with a LFD i can go do my dailys/other stuff while getting qeues. if people ninja so what? ninja them back. what r u a girl er somthin?

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Ledra
02.12.2012 , 11:24 AM | #208
Alright how about this for a reason. We'll drop all the 'breaks community' as we've established that is something people value quite differently etc. The trouble with a LFD tool for me is that it actually doesnt solve anything. Really it doesnt. People want to say 'Atleast I can do other stuff while in que instead of being on the fleet' but we all know you'll end up being in que on the fleet anyways. But anyways its not a super solution to fix it all.

As I understand it people 'casual' people, people with 'real lives' etc want a tool because they dont want to spend time looking for a group in the fleet in the general channels. Because they dont have much time to play. As some guy some posts before this wrote he only has a hour, hour and a half tops to play after some school or whatnot. And the doesnt want to spend 40min + looking for a group. Alright I get that. I'm asuming this is from a dps point of view yea? Even so lets nail it down.

Without a system. "Spam" channels.

Dps - 30-40min or so for a group right?

Tank - 5 min or so? We all love the tanks right

Healer - 5-10 min about right? We cant after all go without a healer.

With a LFD system.

Dps - 30-40 min or so right? Because now whats happened is the game is spamming 'DPS LFG FP HM Whichever' for us in a channel we cant see.

Tank - 5 min or so probably less even.

Healer - Same as tank maybe 5min + since usually there's more healers then tanks.

What did it solve? Nothing. But oh wait! Make it Cross Realm! Thats solves it right?? Because then we have a bigger pool of players which means more healers and tanks!

With a LFD Cross Realm system.

Dps - 30-40 min

Tank - 5 min

Healer - 5 min.

Yey ! Cross realm LFD system finally ... Wait a minute? Still sucky que's hows that possible? We made a group of 4 ( 4!!! ) realms that MUST mean there are more tanks and healers ... Oh wait ofcourse there's more dps as well ....

If you dont believe me? Go search the Wow and Rift forums. Exactly what happened. First same server LFD tool. Then cross servers. And there's still whine about que times.

So yea that's why I dont like it. I am not gonna mention the community things yet again but I find it breaks stuff without fixing the things it's supposed to fix ...
I'm not evil, just different.

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Vulgarr
02.12.2012 , 11:25 AM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by --Gunner-- View Post
Im tired of sitting in the fleet trying to form a group when my guilds not on. At least with a LFD i can go do my dailys/other stuff while getting qeues. if people ninja so what? ninja them back. what r u a girl er somthin?
and so it begins.

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DarthKhaos
02.12.2012 , 11:25 AM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by navarh View Post
go on, implement same-server, i look forward to laugh at outcome of this miserable attempt
You sure seem bitter about my suggestion.
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