Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

How is this any different from what we currently have? People join the group and while the leader spams LFM the others in the group pretty much just afk/check the gtn/talk to guild. Maybe once in awhile people will chit chat, but seriously, most of the time people just afk till the group is full because they know its going to take an hour to find that last person which is almost always a tank or a healer.

Also, I don't want to communicate while doing the content... A few words here and there to joke around is fine, but overall I want to concentrate on completing the content... You should be concentrating on the fights not talking to each other. If you want to chit chat go talk in general chat on the fleet...

LFD does not remove the incentive to socialize. The entire concept of "it kills the community" is complete and utter BS. Regardless if there is a LFD feature or not, people will continue to talk in general chat. The difference? There wont be people spamming "LFG/LFM" ever 5 seconds cluttering the chat window and it will allow people to actually go out and quest and do other content instead of being FORCED to sit on the fleet spamming the chat for a group. People who are against a LFD feature are either lying to themselves or simply insane and like sitting around doing nothing apparently.

Jerks will be jerks and whether its same server or cross server you WILL come across them. This is NOT good enough reason to punish everyone else just because a few people have low tolerance for jerks. I'd rather deal with a jerk once in a blue moon then sit in the fleet for hours spamming "LFG" in the chat.

Also jerks can easily be dealt with by having a vote to kick feature and having /ignore ruling them out of the match ups when you queue again so that way you never see them again, problem solved.

Harsh as it may seem, I think BioWare would accept losing subs looking for a "hardcore" experience if they could get twice as many "casual" gamers to subscribe.

Honestly, there's been times in my run with this game that have almost made me start Wurm Online again. Howver, I really do enjoy Warzones and Flashpoints, and I want to do some Ops eventually. I guess the parts of the game I like most would be the parts that would be more accessible to me with a better LFG system, so I'm looking forward to it.

These must be tough times for gamers looking for a hardcore Star Wars experience. It seems like some people are just now finding out that this isn't really that type of MMO.

Not only that but the who lists only displays 100 records, even if there is 150 or so people on the fleet. So your still not seeing everyone that could possibly have LFG flagged, but I reckon the ones flagged are supposed to show up first. Yet if you have it ordered in a different fashion your still screwed.

I have never seen more than 100 people in the fleet, what its like to be on a server where you can get groups?

^^^^^^^^

Hit the nail on the head for the main reason as to why cross server LFD should not be implemented. Server wide is a-okay. If server population is an issue Bioware needs to get off their butt's and do mergers. As a player from vanilla wow on up I can say with confidence that as soon as cross server LFD entered the game alot of people's quality of play just went to the crapper which more than likely had a huge hand in the start of have the achievement for said raid or instance or you can't come. "Before you start accusing me of being someone who didn't have the achievements and was butthurt, I'm not as I got to do all content up to CATA launch. Sure you get in a group faster but the returns blow. Like taking the same amount of time to start and finish as you do from when you LFG now cause you get someone that has no clue of whats going on and this is more than likely bound to happen more then a couple of times in a row most of the time.

BIOWARE please just merge the low population servers, implement cross server PVP AND NEVER EVER think about going down the dark road of cross server PVE content again.

The "community" nonsense really only used as a argument on these forums, in the game the only community that exists is with in the guild, random people dont care about another random person unless there is a need. People stuck on this community non sense need to get a real life stop trying to role play or what ever they are doing and let us enjoy the content we pay for. I have never been more annoyed at a group of posters as I am with the community of this game on these forums, I cant stand them, they want swtor to stay stuck in the past, thankfully i dont think the dev care, because these people are the minority the masses want dual spec and a lfg tool. A bunch of x wow players scorned by a game they played for years and are anti wow anything even if it works

I didn't say anything at all about "hardcore".

Though an MMO that i might actually have to read at least part of the manual for would be a nice change of pace. Though i guess that could be construde as "hardcore" these days eh?

Logging on to AAA MMOs recently is more of challenge of keeping my eyes open than anything the game offers. I've done it 1000s of times before. Slapping a new IP on a new box, hardly makes a new MMO these days.

Sorry, hardcore wasn't the right word, with all it's varied connotations... "unique" would be a better word, and yeah, besides the IP, there's nothing unique about TOR. Now, if you took this game and re-skinned it to make a Shadowrun MMO, I wouldn't care so much about the repetitiveness and the staleness. An IP can only get you so far. Totally agree. However, I think EA values the IP and its fans over MMO culture.

Dude 10k internet points for you. You hit that nail squarely on it's head.

The nay-sayers seem to pine for a "Golden Age" of mmos, where (apparently) there was a thing called a "community".

Spoiler alert: that was then, this is now and now (ie; the 21st century) people want convenience. I'm willing to bet none of the nay-sayers grow their own vegetables or butcher their own meat. Why? Because it's frankly too damned inconvenient. Join the rest of us in the 21st century and embrace a LFD tool. And if you don't want to use it? News flash: you don't have to.

LFD tools are the way it is now. The vast majority of us dont want another job - we want a game.

You DO know that you can see people flagged LFG on other planets? Wait you didn't know? Oh right. Because it's not a fully automated cross server SYSTEM not tool people ignore it. Doesn't mean it's not there. That's the point i'm trying to make.

You an see ANYONE that is flagged and what their LFG comment is ANYWHERE in the game. Other planets, Flashpoints, even Warznes. You got no idea how many times I checked when I see someone spamming over and over in General and I have to tell them to check the LFG tool there's a healer or tank over on <insert planet/warzone here> flagged.

My point THERE IS ONE. May be crude, can use some design upgrades and not a lot of people use or know bout it but IT IS THERE.



How DARE they try to Role Play in a Role Playing Game. The nerve of them!