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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Ansultares
02.12.2012 , 05:21 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Pink_Saber View Post
They pop in, grind through their instance, and split up at the end without ever having connected in any way at all.
I believe it's an effect of a lack of challenge/difficulty in the content, because that's certainly an accurate description of TOR, even moreso than it was of WoW before they implemented LFD.

Quote: Originally Posted by face_hindu View Post
You know what would have helped? Pazaak, Swoop Races, Battledroids, Arenas, Chess...
Those would all help, but none of them can save the game if the content is braindead easy.

Not seeing any of them is really surprising; weren't they popular or semi-popular features in KoTOR?

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EvilTrollGuy
02.12.2012 , 05:23 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Ansultares View Post
I believe it's an effect of a lack of challenge/difficulty in the content, because that's certainly an accurate description of TOR, even moreso than it was of WoW before they implemented LFD.

Those would all help, but none of them can save the game if the content is braindead easy.

Not seeing any of them is really surprising; weren't they popular or semi-popular features in KoTOR?
Pazaak, swoop-bike and arena is supposed to be played vs other players.

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freekyjason
02.12.2012 , 05:30 AM | #23
im not against a LFD tool built into the game, and i am surprised it isnt there really, but i am against the eltism that it breeds in the form of meters which inevitably will be bought in as well.

i dont want this game to focused on the stupid dps arguements that flared all over that other stupid game leading to groups which were formed demanding certain attributes from people with no reasonable understanding of those who may only just be getting the hang of raiding.

too many groups form and refuse someone who may purely want to learn, all because they are "undergeared" or their "rotation isnt the FOTM" or possibly "your CC skills keeping the tank and the rest of us alive are leading to low DPS, goodbye"

personally i would like to see a LFG/LFD addition, but i dont want the rest that follows, and once one is in, the rest will come

"if you build it, they will come"
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EvilTrollGuy
02.12.2012 , 05:32 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by freekyjason View Post
im not against a LFD tool built into the game, and i am surprised it isnt there really, but i am against the eltism that it breeds in the form of meters which inevitably will be bought in as well.

i dont want this game to focused on the stupid dps arguements that flared all over that other stupid game leading to groups which were formed demanding certain attributes from people with no reasonable understanding of those who may only just be getting the hang of raiding.

too many groups form and refuse someone who may purely want to learn, all because they are "undergeared" or their "rotation isnt the FOTM" or possibly "your CC skills keeping the tank and the rest of us alive are leading to low DPS, goodbye"

personally i would like to see a LFG/LFD addition, but i dont want the rest that follows, and once one is in, the rest will come

"if you build it, they will come"
DPS meters are also being implemented AFAIK, however, I don't remember once being kicked from a group because my DPS wasn't the highest and in WoW I did a lot of bad DPS until my shadow priest was properly geared.

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navarh
02.12.2012 , 05:37 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Pink_Saber View Post
Personally, I think there's a lot of truth to the argument that LFD systems (at least as implemented in WoW and Rift) do hurt community.
if yours "community" is "destroyed" so easy don't you think that it is not a community in the first place? it's just a bunch of people that forced to do what they don't want to do…
no?
Quote: Originally Posted by Pink_Saber View Post
teleported right in front of the first fight removed any need to communicate at all.
someone here need understand that dungeon, fp, raid, op and stuff isn't made to chat there…
they made for people to play, kill mobs, fight bosses…
if you want to chat there general and whole game-world outside

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Mminas
02.12.2012 , 05:39 AM | #26
@OP

You say that the lack of social activities is what is hindering the creation of a good community but aren't hm runs and wz a form of social activity themselves?

Cross server content destroys any chance of creating a server based community for the sole and simple reason that you don't NEED the community to play anymore.

I understand that there are people with limited schedules that can't afford to play a game as much so as to be absorbed in it's social part and that's who the LFD as a tool is referring to. But let's face it. These people where never part of the community anyway (through no fault of their own). They paid and keep paying the same amount of money as more intensive players do and they have a right to demand an LFD but that doesn't make the fact that LFD ruins it for some of us any different.

The social options you are suggesting will end up in the same place the game is now too: People will start with "CMON let's have Cross server nar shadaa casinos there is noone in my server that plays! CMON let's have cross server match up for the card game i cant find anyone to play with in the few hours i have availiable to play."

All these claims are legitimate and honorable but that doesn't mean all of us have to like them.

The LFD tool caters the 2-3hours per day players in the expense of the 5-10 hours per day ones. This is a decision that's up to bioware and it's pretty obvious they are going with the first one. That's not a bad or a good thing. It just depends on which type you are.

TL;DR all cross server content works against the establishment of an active community and that affects the way ppl enjoy the game differently for every player.

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DarthKhaos
02.12.2012 , 05:41 AM | #27
You guys DO knw there IS a LFG Tool in the game currently right?
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Pink_Saber
02.12.2012 , 05:43 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by navarh View Post
if yours "community" is "destroyed" so easy don't you think that it is not a community in the first place? it's just a bunch of people that forced to do what they don't want to do…
no?
No, I don't agree with that at all. Certain things foster community, and certain things are detrimental to it. That's true in the real world, too. Just because something can hinder building community doesn't mean there's something wrong with the community at all.

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someone here need understand that dungeon, fp, raid, op and stuff isn't made to chat there…
they made for people to play, kill mobs, fight bosses…
if you want to chat there general and whole game-world outside
I have no idea what you just said, but I've reread it several times and it looks to me like you're saying an MMO should no social aspects whatsoever... and if you're saying that, well, I completely disagree. Community is vital to an MMO. Always has been, and hopefully always will.

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face_hindu
02.12.2012 , 05:44 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
You guys DO knw there IS a LFG Tool in the game currently right?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL


1. Roll a character on The Jekk Jekk Tarr on a Friday or Saturday night.

2. Wait in a queue to get into the server (it's Full)

3. Do a server-wide /who

If you find more than 5 flagged people across the entire server, when it's full... I'll give you a million credits.


EDIT: I just realized that technically 1 and 2 should be reversed in order.
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DarthKhaos
02.12.2012 , 05:48 AM | #30
Does that change the fact that there IS one face_hindu? Also PM me which faction and your character name I expect to collect.
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