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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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Give me a legitimate reason to NOT have a LFD tool.

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EvilTrollGuy
02.12.2012 , 04:27 AM | #1
I know there are several threads on this, but I'd like to debunk some of the myths there are out there. Hopefully others will join and hopefully I might also actually see a legitimate reason to why BW shouldn't implement a LFD tool.

Anyway here goes:


1# A LFD tool will ruin/destroy the community.

People look at the LFD tool and claim that it goes against creating a community on the server. That's just not true at all, instead you should ask yourself, what Bioware can do to gather people around at specific places? - socialize as you call it.

Numerous suggestions have been made in the 'suggestion' forum e.g. card mini-games, expanded cantinas, an actual functioning Casino at Nar Shaddaa.

THESE are the things people should be complaining about and not things that might potentially ruin someone elses game because they choose a server that is now a low-pop server, or people who want's to get the most out of their playtime.

TL;DR - BW should make features/events that will gather people around at specific places to do stuff together.

2# It will all be about loot acquisition if the LFD tool is implemented.

It already is. People do FPs and hardmode FPs because they 1. just want to check out and 2. because they need the gear to progress. . A LFD tool WILL NOT hinder your enjoyment with friends/guildies, in fact it'll actually make it easier for people to play with friends/guildies.

3# We will see more 'thiefs' and people will be bad mannered.

Correct, however, we'll have the same issue regardless. There is NOTHING that is currenlty preventing people to already do that and in the month I've played the game I've never once seen someone yell out "don't play with Mr X because...", I've seen a couple of guilds being mentioned, but not the individual players no.

People don't automatically turn into 'thiefs' just because they won't see the other players again.

If anything you might notice it more because you'll be playing more. At any rate I doubt there's any real evidence suggesting that people become bullies and thiefs just because they won't the other rest of the group again.

4# "I don't want to play with random bad/clueless players".

Finding the players yourself won't prevent anyone from being clueless or bad and they'll still be random. Yes, you *might* potentially make a new friend, but a LFD tool doesn't hinder anyone in doing so anyway outside the FP.

5# Only lazy people wants a LFD tool.

Wait, what?! Spending 1-2 hours LFG in the fleet is 'fun' and socializing? It has nothing to do with being lazy, it has something to do with actually playing the game and a LFD tool will not hinder anyone from playing with friends.

6# If you don't have the time to find a group yourself you shouldn't be playing an MMO.

This is just plain wrong and I've seen people write this. a LFD tool is all about getting the most out of your time, espcially for people who don't have a lot of time, but enjoys the game and the universe. Are we just supposed to neglect those people?

To sum it up:

a LFD tool doesn't hinder people in making friends, the lack of social activities in the current state of the game, however, does. Besides you'll also be playing with 'doucebags' on your own server, a LFD tool will not make this worse, we'll instead be playing more and thus be seeing them more.

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Aerevan
02.12.2012 , 04:32 AM | #2
Because it would make the Republic at the very least viable again. We don't want that now, don't we?

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Thunderslice
02.12.2012 , 04:33 AM | #3
I agree with everything you have said and honestly if the game never gets one people will just leave, spamming chat sucks every one I know on the game hates it, people in general comment on how much they hate it, it will get very old. The only people left playing this game will be the ones that dont want one and honestly i dont think they make up the majority of the community, almost everyone I talk to in game does not post on these forums and the ones that know about them say how bad the people on the forums are.

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Sotof
02.12.2012 , 04:36 AM | #4
It's wasted development time that could have been used on things that I actually care about.

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pipda
02.12.2012 , 04:37 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Sotof View Post
It's wasted development time that could have been used on things that I actually care about.
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EvilTrollGuy
02.12.2012 , 04:49 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Sotof View Post
It's wasted development time that could have been used on things that I actually care about.

Isn't a LFD tool beneeficial to all of us? What's the point in making new FPs if people on low-pop servers cannot play them?

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Orisai
02.12.2012 , 04:56 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by EvilTrollGuy View Post
Isn't a LFD tool beneeficial to all of us? What's the point in making new FPs if people on low-pop servers cannot play them?
Plus, LFD is part of the Game Systems team, which is completely different from the team that makes the flashpoints and warzones, which, if I'm right, is the Content and Level Design team.
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Necrolepsy
02.12.2012 , 04:59 AM | #8
cross-server lfd breeds idiots who can get away with anything

intra-server lfd is fine, people are still accountable
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Orisai
02.12.2012 , 05:08 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Necrolepsy View Post
cross-server lfd breeds idiots who can get away with anything

intra-server lfd is fine, people are still accountable
What Bioware could do since day one, is to add two systems to prevent any lack of accountability and ninja looting:

1. Internal Player behavior points system, much like the one used on driver licenses in some countries and US states. This way reported or kicked players will have less to no chances to group up with the same people again, eventually preventing them from doing any group Flashpoint/Warzone content until their restrictions are lifted.

2. Proper gear looting restrictions based on item level, queued role, spec, stats, type of armor, selected companion (yellow in Crew Skills) in case no one needs the gear and a companion could use it.
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Ansultares
02.12.2012 , 05:08 AM | #10
The community would be destroyed by self-entitled brats secure behind their cross-server queues, or so the story goes, not that BW did much to foster community building in the first place.

Clearly I didn't read the OP, because he covered all that.