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BW announced their plans to kill server communities yesterday...

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BW announced their plans to kill server communities yesterday...

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Ahebish
02.12.2012 , 01:51 AM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by EternalFinality View Post
I know. The person I was quoting foolishly appeared to be implying the opposite. Pure nonsense.

Interestingly, Bioware "fixed" the whole dungeon problem by forcing every party to be composed of 1 tank 1 healer and 2 dps for Hard Modes. Enrage timers for everyone is the laziness design I've ever seen.
Ya I wasn't being critical of your post... i was adding to it. Much to the contrary you will hear from wowz'ers

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Mycrof
02.12.2012 , 01:52 AM | #132
Oh please. Not this pretend server community crap again.

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FourTwent
02.12.2012 , 01:52 AM | #133
I agree with the OP to an extent. It wont 'kill' it outright, but it will decrease the rate in which we start to form these friendships with others on our server. I think when cross server comes, it will push these types of social interactions strictly on Ilum.

Then again, it's really just dependent on your own server. If the core pvp group is happy with playing against people on their server, the general consensus would be to only queue for same server PvP. If the server is big enough, this feature wouldn't change a thing. . .except making the queues for late night/early morning quicker since people still have the choice to pick cross server.

I see the argument from both sides of the coin. Some people can get tired of playing against the same over and over. . .some people might like to test their skills against a wider group. . .some people are tired of being facerolled by the opposing faction due to imbalance or early exploiting(Ilum).

Cross server queues would fix a lot of the issues listed above BUT if the individual server is happy they can choose to not queue cross server(then it just boils down to how populated the server is in order to keep everyone happy while doing it).

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Abiza
02.12.2012 , 01:59 AM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by Saphist View Post
Why bother? For every good post we make theres 20 posts crying that i want my stuff now. It's not the players fault they rolled bad servers but instead of putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound merge servers or offer a transfer off low pop servers. Fix the problem don't cover it up.

My 2cents not that its worth a damn. Another Star wars game killed by the dev's

Agreed. I say they put these gosh darn servers to the test and get to merging. Even the servers that are Heavy don't seem very populated. Not what to the point I'd expect anyways. Wayyyy too many servers at launch. They did this to themselves but I can't imagine it being too hard of a fix.

Edit: LOL it automatically changes godd damnn* into Gosh Darn. lululul
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Majspuffen
02.12.2012 , 02:01 AM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by Mycrof View Post
Oh please. Not this pretend server community crap again.
"Pretend"? Would I be correct if I were to guess that you're one of those players who do not even try to communicate with other players, and/or simply isn't good enough to earn recognition on your server?

I do not pretend that I've had people whispering me after warzones, nor do I pretend to have whispered other people who I've enjoyed playing with. I do not pretend that the majority of people in my friendlist consists of people I've met in warzones.

It's a fact. And I would love to see the game continue in this direction, because it is genuinely fun. Much more fun than playing with people who do not care about anything other than themselves. I'll gladly take those extra minutes of wait time.

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lortiz
02.12.2012 , 02:07 AM | #136
Community? Never heard of it.

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LaVolpex
02.12.2012 , 02:15 AM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by lendaugy View Post
Dont see the down-side to this at all... Would you rather me sit in an empty fleet for 3 days trying to run 1 flashpoint?

Or click a button and que up with other people in the same boat as me... so we can actually Progress threw the games content?
its been said before, the solution is to merge low pop servers

that fixes your problem without screwing over servers that actually have a good community already...

< cant throw a stone without hitting some group forming for something , right now there are groups looking for more for a couple of things...its all in the numbers

also, heres a quick poll

enumerate the reasons we CURRENTLY have to interact with other people from our server?

now substract 2 from those and you got a good idea of what , if any , reason we might have to actually get to know people on our server, and no crafting doesnt count given that crafting is crap right now

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Smashbrother
02.12.2012 , 02:20 AM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by Majspuffen View Post
"Pretend"? Would I be correct if I were to guess that you're one of those players who do not even try to communicate with other players, and/or simply isn't good enough to earn recognition on your server?

I do not pretend that I've had people whispering me after warzones, nor do I pretend to have whispered other people who I've enjoyed playing with. I do not pretend that the majority of people in my friendlist consists of people I've met in warzones.

It's a fact. And I would love to see the game continue in this direction, because it is genuinely fun. Much more fun than playing with people who do not care about anything other than themselves. I'll gladly take those extra minutes of wait time.
And how does cross server q ing prevent you from making groups with those ppl on your friend's list and playing together with them all the time? It doesn't.

Not all of us have so much free time that we can afford to wait 10-15 minutes for a Q to pop every time.

I enjoyed facing the same teams back in WoW before cross server came out, but I also really enjoyed not having to wait for Qs to pop. I still had fun pvping regardless of whether I knew the enemies I fought. If anything, cross server Qs reduced the amount of trash talking that would occur on the server forums when one side would beat the other.

All you people saying cross server kills community need to realize there is nothing preventing you from grouping up with friends/guildmates and challenging ur rivals to a fight in open world pvp.

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Tzou
02.12.2012 , 02:22 AM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by Lectro View Post
This stuff happens from forum whining. Player A starts a thread whining about huttball

Player B starts a thread whining about wanting the queue for whatever warzone they want.

Player C creates a guild/player on a PVE server and whines about PVP.

Gabe figures he can save it by listening to the awesome whine bots.

In reality he's killing the game, for a few people who will no doubt quit in the next 2 months. Leaving the rest of the community who "planned" to stay hating the changes and quitting as well..

The forums need removed from the game IMO. This is the leading cause of video game demise..
omg someone that reminds me.

yes yes yes remoove the forums from the game.its so obvious that whiners ALWAYS wins here.
and its also obvious that in any case they will quit the game sooner or later.

create your game BIO and let them deside if they like it or no.put some GMS online during game and watch closely how the game goes.put also some GMS on PTR to test the game with us.

simple.
stop LISTENING to casual players that has nothing else to do than spamm all day and night forums for nerfs and changes.

over and out.

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Mycrof
02.12.2012 , 02:24 AM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by Majspuffen View Post
"Pretend"? Would I be correct if I were to guess that you're one of those players who do not even try to communicate with other players, and/or simply isn't good enough to earn recognition on your server?

I do not pretend that I've had people whispering me after warzones, nor do I pretend to have whispered other people who I've enjoyed playing with. I do not pretend that the majority of people in my friendlist consists of people I've met in warzones.

It's a fact. And I would love to see the game continue in this direction, because it is genuinely fun. Much more fun than playing with people who do not care about anything other than themselves. I'll gladly take those extra minutes of wait time.
No, you would not be correct. That's okay, people that preface their observations with a shot in the dark assumption frequently are. The fact is what you just described doesn't represent a community. Instead, it suggest that war zones have had what appears to be a marginal impact on your sense of community. It appears your perception is merely based on some yet to be expressed bias. You don't even define what community is nor do you bother to explain how this one facet of the game amounts to the demise of community.

I might take these self indulgent threads more seriously if people could actually articulate what is wrong with this feature as it relates to pvp beyond just saying they're bad.