When can we expect LFG?

Agreed. Blaming LFG/R tool for creating bad players is like blaming the interstate system for making bad drivers.

Truth is the bad players and drivers have always existed, The LFG tool -- much like the interstate -- just the place we meet them.

Thank you lord.

But you made sure to say that the kiddies were home. Maybe you should get out of the house more and know what day it is instead of playing games. Up yo you but if you dont know if its a weekday or a weekend you have a problem IMO. A tues and a wed, I can understand some but not a friday and a Sat

Holy crap I am! let me get all huffy puffy and dramatic like you then! IMMEDIATELY!!!


Bioware this game is so horrible! how dare you not make the game the way i want it!! Make it better or I will quit and im taking SO MANY people with me your game will be HARDCORE FAILZ. Believe me cause I hold the truth to building success with an mmo! I AM THE TRUE VOICE OF THE COMMUNITY!!!!!!

how is that?

Again with the forums only representing a small portion of people it isn't a great representation of the general sentiment. Blogs and reviews are misleading because you are seeing one person's perspective. If that person is one of the few that experiences a client crash, they may take off points for that. If they have consecutive poor experiences with other players, they may take off points for that. On the same token if they have great experiences that are ultimately unique, they may score it higher than what the general population actually believes.

Also if first impressions were the deciding factor, WoW would have been long dead. Vanilla was buggy, frustrating and grindy as hell. As you said, they changed as they needed to and I have no doubt that when the time comes, SWTOR will do the same.

Having LFR doesn't foster community either. People go to LFR to faceroll easy-mode bosses for gimped loot, plain and simple. Once the raid is done (or even once they have the piece of loot they wanted), they drop group never to be seen again.

LFR is to real raiding as miniature golf is real golf. If the masses want it because that's the only way they'll see the content, cool. Go for it. But don't pretend like it will make the community a better place. If anything it does just the opposite. Instant gratification with minimal effort.

for the record i am ok with an lfg tool. I dont think there is harm in it, although I never saw it as an essential tool that many will quit over, if not implemented.

If you have never experienced the days blending together because your life is so busy then I envy you.


Also, my wife and twin boys keep me out of the house enough, if anything Im not spending enough time playing my games.

So if the forums represent a small percentage of the players then is it safe to say that most of the people playing the game are finding groups and runnning flashpoints without a problem and that the players on the forum that want LFG is indead a small minority of players. If the small amount of elite hardcore players cant get something becasue they are the small minority then the small minority of players that want LFG shouldnt get it either.

Please do try and back out of that one

Mislead? How? By what? Because you did not feel like reading up on what the game had? Because you did not check out youtube? Because you did not get into Beta to which everyone was invited to? Because you had like 2 weeks of early launch to return the game and get the refund?

I call BS.

I have also been a gamer in the online community for a decade and I am telling you that this whole casual vs hardcore crap is crap. Even if the game was directly created for Hardcore only crowd, every single casual will not quit. People play what they want to play. Look at early days of WoW. The so called casuals had very little access to content and yet vanilla ended with 6 million players. Only like .2% saw Naxx and yet people kept playing. Like 2% saw Sunwell and xpack ended with 11 million players.

Now look at rift. Rift is about 5 times better version than WoW and it has cross server LFG. They pump out content 6 times faster than WoW and Rift is not growing at a ridiculous rate. Why? Because people do not care what is better. People care about what is popular. Star Wars is popular? People will play the game as is. All Star Wars episodes will be re released in 3d will further influence a growth in the game.

It is not about casuals paying the bills. It is about people buying the game. Hardcore on the other end will help spread the word about the game and create guides, tutorials, videos, etc. I am not hardcore and I believe that hardcore gamers/fans are more beneficial to the game these so called "casuals." There may be more casual players but if some change doesn't occur, every casual will not quit. A major change happens to the game and hardcores might leave and take their free advertisement and some fans with them.