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Feelinestars
02.11.2012 , 07:05 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Magnijung View Post
Prove it. Give me a study. Give me data. Give me numbers that will prove that what you are saying is actually true. Give me something more than your assumption.

There is no hardcore crowd. There is no casual crowd. These 2 types people are not organized groups of players. People play the game that they want to play.

I bought SWTOR and I will pay for it as long as it meets my requirements to be entertained by a game. I knew what the game had and I knew what it did not have.

I have no idea why you bought this game and keep paying for it when you do not enjoy it and it is missing key components.
Because we were all misled as to what this game would include and what it would be, to address your last sentence.

There's nothing to prove, man. Just being a gamer in the online community for a decade is proof enough. There are hardcores and there are casuals in an MMO. There are some in-between. The developers make content for the hardcore so the casuals have something to aspire to.

How do I go about proving this obvious.. thing?

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02.11.2012 , 07:05 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Kourage View Post
First of all, what do you expect from "LFG" ?

A LFG tool means a tool that helps you find and form groups. It is not a Dungeon Finder that auto groups you and transports you an instance. It doesn't connect servers. WoW had one in BC. I liked it.
Anything that is server only and does not group you up automatically but insteads let you put your name into a group (healer or tank or heroic BT or normal foundry) andallows you to serr other people that also want to do it and then someone has to start a group and manual intive the players then thats fine.

That would be upgrading the current LFG tool that they have. This is not what these players want, they want the WoW LFG tool that auto groups you and ports you to the instanceand then back.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?

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Dystopic
02.11.2012 , 07:05 PM | #73
Just made a thread about this and here's this one i didn't see. I'll copy pasta my thoughts.



When people who dislike the idea of x-server queue options think of them being implemented in this game they immediately think of wow's LFG tool and the PVP community being so fractured that you never see a familiar face. It doesn't have to be that way.

I enjoy getting into WZs and seeing people that I know, being able to strategize with people because their is actually a little trust there and we're not assuming that everyone is a 13 year old that will rage quit and not help while calling everyone noobs. But I also enjoy actually doing things and sitting in queue with nothing to do at 50 or sitting on fleet spamming for a group is simply not enjoyable and not worth my time. So how do you implement an x-server grouping system that does not make manners devolve and destroy communities? By giving it a priority system and possibly a timer system. Try to group people by server, but also only open the queue up to other servers if a certain amount of time has gone by with nobody else from the server queuing. Obviously, not perfect and there are more ways to tweak it but the point is that an x-server queue system does not need to be a direct duplicate of WOW's. There are ways this can work and be amazing for this game.

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mcburly
02.11.2012 , 07:06 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Magnijung View Post
Prove it. Give me a study. Give me data. Give me numbers that will prove that what you are saying is actually true. Give me something more than your assumption.

There is no hardcore crowd. There is no casual crowd. These 2 types people are not organized groups of players. People play the game that they want to play.

I bought SWTOR and I will pay for it as long as it meets my requirements to be entertained by a game. I knew what the game had and I knew what it did not have.

I have no idea why you bought this game and keep paying for it when you do not enjoy it and it is missing key components.
he wont be able to. He just thinks everything he believes is the absolute truth of everything. Its quite funny actually
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gannonmoss
02.11.2012 , 07:06 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Feelinestars View Post
I agree with you that BioWare may have had a vision of what they wanted this game to be at some point, but it's clear it got clouded and it's currently very, very misguided. All major successful games going back to Quake in the mid 90's embraced their communities.. and for good reason. Mapmakers, modders, artists, UI designers, etc. all breathe life into a game where developers are not very good. Blizzard realized this early, early on. Ever notice a mod would make something like Questhelper, then an expansion later Blizzard puts in a questhelper.. but even better than the original mod?

BioWare needs to let the community fix the game.. and fast. Really fast. First impressions mean a LOT. Especially in 2012 and with all the competition. This isn't 2004 anymore. A mediocre MMO, regardless of having a big name in the title, will not last if it doesn't have good gameplay and replayability.
Well that is entirely opinion. They are adding a fully customizable UI in 1.2. They also said that mods will not be available at launch. This is also a good thing at launch. The reason for this is that once they get a handle on the majority of the bugs that came with the game and subsequent patches, they can then begin to think about letting community addons into the game. Addons break clients all the time, which often results in headaches for the technical customer service department. A seperate interface will need to be designed to manage these as well. First impressions have been good as well and this game, at least for fans of Star Wars and RPG's - has quite a bit of replayability. Enjoyment of gameplay is pretty subjective however.
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Darth_Grissom
02.11.2012 , 07:06 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Emeda View Post
They have school on Sat in the pacific north west?
Your right, its saturday. Everyone I know doesnt even work weekends........this finding LFG crap is even worse because its saturday.

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Feelinestars
02.11.2012 , 07:07 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by mcburly View Post
he wont be able to. He just thinks everything he believes is the absolute truth of everything. Its quite funny actually
Nice post! Lots of thought and substance went into this! Excellent debating skills, too.

You are BioWare's worst nightmare.

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Nitewolfe
02.11.2012 , 07:08 PM | #78
For these looking forward to a cross server lfg!!

Simon – Any plans for an LFG tool?

SR: Definitely being looked at including cross-server Flashpoint tool. Definitely wanting to do.

http://toroz.com.au/2012/02/stephen-...ry-transcript/

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Feelinestars
02.11.2012 , 07:08 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by gannonmoss View Post
Well that is entirely opinion. They are adding a fully customizable UI in 1.2. They also said that mods will not be available at launch. This is also a good thing at launch. The reason for this is that once they get a handle on the majority of the bugs that came with the game and subsequent patches, they can then begin to think about letting community addons into the game. Addons break clients all the time, which often results in headaches for the technical customer service department. A seperate interface will need to be designed to manage these as well. First impressions have been good as well and this game, at least for fans of Star Wars and RPG's - has quite a bit of replayability. Enjoyment of gameplay is pretty subjective however.
I believe the forums are a good representation of first impressions, as well as GAMER blogs and GAMER reviews. Not the gaming websites giving reviews, actual gamers reviewing the game.

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Emeda
02.11.2012 , 07:10 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Magnijung View Post
I bought SWTOR and I will pay for it as long as it meets my requirements to be entertained by a game. I knew what the game had and I knew what it did not have.

I have no idea why you bought this game and keep paying for it when you do not enjoy it and it is missing key components.
Read both of those statements you made and tell me why you bought the game yourself when you knew it didnt have LFG at the start.
If this game is so great then why do so many people that love the game spend all their time in the forums?
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