What Effect Did Star Wars: The Old Republic’s Launch Have on World of Warcraft?

Swtor is a great game that has a super upside for the long term. But as anyone but the most rabid fanboys now knows, the game was launced broken with more bugs than an old bed in a cheap NY hotel room.

BW seems to be fumbling around (must I mention the great cool down fiasco). It seems unable to address basic issues (must I mention the many problems grouped as ability delay). It is apparent that for many an outsourced and ineffective CS does not cut it. BW made some really bad community relations mistakes around launch (remember the whole grace period fiasco - there was one promised, then there was not one, then there was a two day grace period.)

So indeed swtor is facing challenges and concerns from an investors viewpoint are justified. Long term, it remains to be seen whether BW can get it's act together and do so in time before extensive damage to the player base is done.

There are some major titles coming out this year.

But the question was did swtor have and effect on wow. The answer is yes. We may be looking at two sissys swinging wildly at each other in a school yard, but the question was did one ever land a punch.

To be serious, I think that there is a great demand for a quality mmo and perhaps we will all have to spin our wheels in swtor or wow or elsewhere while waiting for one to come along.

This is where I disagree. TOR is a great short term game but at this point a very horrible long term game.

Both have merit. SWTOR has the features for a great short term game and little to no content for long term plans. It's too bad when it was released most of its features were essentially prehistoric compared to MMOs of today.

With the amount of bug fixes they do every week and their involvement in the community (which, just looking at the Dev Tracker, they are pretty vocal about major issues and we're seeing things fixed in a pretty timely matter based on how deep the bug is) I would say this game has a chance at being very healthy in the long term.


That's an opinion. I personally am finding the lack of some of those "features" (PvP in a box, flying mounts, and Cross Server PvE I'm looking at you) to be why I love this game so much. I don't have to worry about idiots from other servers acting like fools because they didn't get their way or ninjaing. I don't have to sit there and watch as PvP becomes these little 2v2 and 3v3 fights that lead to sweeping changes every single patch. I don't have to worry about a lot of that stuff in this game and that's why I love it.

jumping the shark, 101.

Most the bug fixes they put in place either don't fix things or break something else. Yes they do fix bugs but half the time something else pops up. It's something around a 1:1 ratio of break:fix or 2:1 break:fix...

The Dev tracker is actually fairly empty. Yesterday was probably one of their biggest post days with about 6 posts. Some of which was patch notes and commenting in their own threads. On a day to day basis you'll see more Dev post that have to do with "don't troll" or "we're locking this tread" than you will commenting about issues.

True as things now stand.

Although this is a matter of opinion, to many swtor is fun and immersive (it is to me despite it's flaws). There is much that is just great and to love about the game which could keep people playing for a long time.

Whether swtor can be good long term, forgetting about the issues it faces, is no different than any other mmo. It depends on content and feature additions.

So we will see. I know that wife and I will be around for about six months and hope that BW can get it's act together so we can be here longer. I am confident that there will indeed be new content and features, but not so much that BW can "fix" the game.

Down 5% today. One of it's bigger fans, Macquarie, dropped their rating on the stock. One of their bigger supporters dropping it is pretty big.

Source?

this

i admit i had a chuckle when i saw this. when has blizzard ever did this?

and since when are the actual code writers at an actual blizzcon?