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People are exaggerating the few problems SWTOR has.

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People are exaggerating the few problems SWTOR has.

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JumperPenn
02.10.2012 , 03:56 AM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by ValaxDarkseer View Post
Does SWTOR have problems and the occassional bug? Of course. Every game does. WoW had way more bugs than SWTOR at launch but did any of you complain about that? Prolly not

My point is that most of the problems being mentioned are likely greatly exaggerated and in some cases have been made up entirely by trolls (fake ban posts for example). Most performance issues are on the users end because of low end computers as Bioware has already stated.

Please stop complaining about problems which are not Biowares fault or will soon be fixed. They are working hard and gave us one of the greatest MMO's ever made (with the best story by far btw )
You are correct I didn't complain about WoW. Do you know why I didn't complain about WoW, it is because I never played it, not then not ever.

Some people do exaggerate problems but that isn't everyone you should be aware of this and casually dismissing them because you haven't run into them or you just don't care doesn't make it so. Even worse is when many if not all these bugs were in the beta from months (maybe a year or more) ago yet still persist. Claiming it is the user's fault is a BW fall back like many developers they are quick to blame you just like they did about their corrupt Content Delivery Network, it was our fault they served up corrupt files.

Virtually all the problems with the game are EA/bw's fault and there is nothing to suggest that they will "soon be fixed" since they didn't do it at launch and now nearly 2 months into launch.

No they didn't give us anything we paid for this, even if you got it as a gift someone paid for it. This by far is not one of the greatest MMO's ever made, more mmo's are being made will be made and this one is by no means in any way shape or form the greatest of what is or what will be.
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Alpha-Llama
02.10.2012 , 04:05 AM | #102
Quote: Originally Posted by Vis-Tecum View Post
not getting credit for warzone wins twords their daily in no way makes it so a player cannot play the game so yes it is minor

now if they were not getting any xp or credits for wins like it never happened then it would be alittle more serious but still not game breaking you are just doing warzones for fun

and illum is the most over exaggerated problem in the game. it is not broken and the valor/turret/base camping have been addresed and fixxed rather quikly, everyone who says that its broken and bioware should just remove it from the game are the biggest offenders of overexaggeration. it can be fun if played right and there is alot of pvp going on in illum right now compared to before the patch, is it perfect? of course not that is why they are still working on it. is it broken... in my opinon, not even close
im not (it might be worth noting everyones different)
im savng commendations to buy what i want from the PVP vendor
if i have fun ( and its a good WZ) its a bonus
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Nitewolfe
02.10.2012 , 04:13 AM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by ValaxDarkseer View Post
Does SWTOR have problems and the occassional bug? Of course. Every game does. WoW had way more bugs than SWTOR at launch but did any of you complain about that? Prolly not

My point is that most of the problems being mentioned are likely greatly exaggerated and in some cases have been made up entirely by trolls (fake ban posts for example). Most performance issues are on the users end because of low end computers as Bioware has already stated.

Please stop complaining about problems which are not Biowares fault or will soon be fixed. They are working hard and gave us one of the greatest MMO's ever made (with the best story by far btw )
You can not exaggerate the lack of common mmo tools. They are ether there or not!

No lfg system
No target of target window
No appearance system
No customizable UI
No global chats
No combat logs


Yes i know other games released with out those things also. But swtor is not competing for market share with what other games did in the past. They have to compete with what other games have now in terms of user tools. No i do not expect a new game to have 7 to 10 years of content. But i do expect a new game to be as user friendly as current games on the market.
20 years ago TV's didnt come with remotes. Doesnt mean i would go buy a TV today that didnt have a remote!

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Elecious
02.10.2012 , 04:15 AM | #104
Quote: Originally Posted by darkcerb View Post
Is swtor missing almost every decent feature modern mmo's have and that people take for granted? (server transfers/forums/cross server bg's, instances/in game, out of game re-customization) Sure, does it have more bugs then my ant farm? sure. Isn't it missing more graphical configuration then it has? sure.

But guys come on...can't we all just accept what we're given without complaint?

Wont sticking our heads in the sand be far better then trying to get problems addressed?
Why do you spend time on a forum for a game you so clearly hate?
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jbodzioch
02.10.2012 , 04:15 AM | #105
Quote: Originally Posted by Darkhosis View Post
Do you really have an ant farm? I always wanted one as a kid.
They are cool

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Nitewolfe
02.10.2012 , 04:24 AM | #106
Quote: Originally Posted by Elecious View Post
Why do you spend time on a forum for a game you so clearly hate?
I didnt get that the poster hates the game.
Did it ever cross your mind that we complain because we like the game and wish to see it become successful?
A fanboy that never complains and blindly worships a game company adds nothign to the game!

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maxbaby
02.10.2012 , 04:28 AM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by ValaxDarkseer View Post
Does SWTOR have problems and the occassional bug? Of course. Every game does. WoW had way more bugs than SWTOR at launch but did any of you complain about that? Prolly not

My point is that most of the problems being mentioned are likely greatly exaggerated and in some cases have been made up entirely by trolls (fake ban posts for example). Most performance issues are on the users end because of low end computers as Bioware has already stated.

Please stop complaining about problems which are not Biowares fault or will soon be fixed. They are working hard and gave us one of the greatest MMO's ever made (with the best story by far btw )
Most of the problems exist and are not exaggerated. There are many things which are beyond bugs. That is conceptual design and the future development of the game.
More people complain - more feedback developer receives. BW is totally new in MMOs.
They need to grow. Our criticism helps them grow and mature. They should be happy.

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Shingara
02.10.2012 , 04:34 AM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitewolfe View Post
You can not exaggerate the lack of common mmo tools. They are ether there or not!

No lfg system Relativly new MMO tool when consisting of a RDF but there are lfg tools.
No target of target window Not so much a common MMO tool mostly seen in addons then addapted to the game
No appearance system To vague to pin on to one thing
No customizable UI Coming
No global chats Communitys on servers have set there own up
No combat logs Not bothered


Yes i know other games released with out those things also. But swtor is not competing for market share with what other games did in the past. They have to compete with what other games have now in terms of user tools. No i do not expect a new game to have 7 to 10 years of content. But i do expect a new game to be as user friendly as current games on the market.
20 years ago TV's didnt come with remotes. Doesnt mean i would go buy a TV today that didnt have a remote!
My answers in red, yes they are competing with other mmos but that doesnt mean the stuff isnt coming. To come out and say that swtor isnt competing with them and then to come out and say but it must have stuff from other mmos is a bit defeatist.
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darkcerb
02.10.2012 , 04:43 AM | #109
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Why do you spend time on a forum for a game you so clearly hate?
Quote: Originally Posted by Nitewolfe View Post
I didnt get that the poster hates the game.
Did it ever cross your mind that we complain because we like the game and wish to see it become successful?
A fanboy that never complains and blindly worships a game company adds nothign to the game!
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GalacticKegger
02.10.2012 , 10:00 AM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by Snido View Post
Whats the sense in dumping more time and money into the music and voice acting then into the actual game? Because that's what the game feels like. As far as Android grinding, once you get past lvl 30 thats all you do. As to the rest of it they had 6 years and $200million, this is not even close to what you would expect from that kind of money.
http://www.swtor.com/news/press-release/20081021_001

Which part of "interactive entertainment, featuring immersive storytelling" are people not getting? That is TOR's staple and producing it is considerably more expensive and WAY more time consuming than coding in click 'n go quest text. It was and is BioWare's primary design goal and there are plenty of us who are enjoying what they've spent those multimillions on. It's OK if you don't like the genre because no one is forcing you to. No reason to beat yourself up over it ... it's just a different game is all.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?