What Effect Did Star Wars: The Old Republic’s Launch Have on World of Warcraft?

Except Drunken master was introduced at least 5-6 years before Kung Fu Panda was even released...


So if Blizzard is copying anyone, they're copying themselves.

Honestly they probably dont, they will bank offshore or have some deal with whichever goverment they are registered with so they will pay only a tiny fraction in tax. Only the poor pay taxes.

lets not forget all the charity stuff they do that's tax deductible.

Also, don't underestimate the amount of money they make from server transfers, faction changes, the stupid mounts and all other crap you can buy with real money.

I left WoW because the dev team got lazy. 8months to a year for a 7 or 8 boss patch with terrible gear itemization? Complete lack of PvE balance 8 years into the game? A possible Ilvl squish? Hard mode balance that goes easy-easy-easy-easy-medium-medium-BRICK WALL?

The game is a shell of its former self.

I think they point we're all trying to bring across is that there are too many Variables to really be sure one way or another.

I personally hope they do the Squish....It'll be nice to go back to those numbers.

hmm....I fail to understand why as players we should even care about this sort of stuff?

Even the CEO of BW will be looking at the books and saying either that the numbers are good enough to be making a profit soon or bad and people need to get fired.
But whether it is beating WOW is irrelevant, a nice publicity bonus but ultimately they won't be looking to beat WOW.

Why? - another poster already said in this thread. "Invested 7 years in WOW so not going to give up on it". That is the unfortunate and sad attitude of a lot of WOW players. Most have seen and done everything WOW has to offer, they've killed the heroic bosses 50 times over, but because they have invested that much time in the game, they won't leave. They login-raid-logout most of the time..that's it.

Most of these players and ex-players have realised that the time spent isn't invested afterall, it is in fact(as all games are) a waste of time, a release from reality , that's it. But now they are 7 years older, TOR is new, they want to play, but in the back of their heads they know what WOW did for their social lives...i.e. robbed them of it, and they don't want to make the same mistake twice.

A lot of the "I quit" posts, or "I'm going back" posts are indicators of this. They need a reason not to waste any more of their lives, so moaning about petty or unrealistic things and seeking approval from the community gives then exactly that.

But ultimatly, WOW is and has been a freak occurrance, you won't see it's like again, at least not for a long time. The players of WOW will not waste another 7 years on another MMO. They know there is a real world and really have decided they need to meet these things called girls and maybe try and engage one in conversation

But, to get back on track, whether WOW losses subs or not to TOR should not really be of concern to TOR players. Your only concern should be is there enough players here so I can play and is there enough money going to EA so they can keep releasing content. If the answer is yes, then whether the figure is 1m or 100m players, you get to keep playing the game and they keep giving you content.

Happy gaming.

P.S. and if you do care about WOW losing subs, then you're on the wrong forum so please leave. Battlenet is that way --->

Wow subs= 8 mil from china far east

3 mi from west/states

Tor 2 mil from west/states..not released in far east as far as I know...

Roughly speaking of course

I have an open WoW account. I think the last time I played myself is more than a year ago and only for a few days (my attention span for that game grew very short over the years).

My son sometimes plays on the account, but the reason it's still open is because I wanted to buy Diablo III and my son wants to try the panda's. Anyway Diablo III will never replace a MMO for me.

1)To repeat myself again, Asians are Human beings, and there are very hardcore guilds in Taiwan and Korea. An Asian sub does count as a sub.

2)I can't help but chuckle each time someone lambast Blizzard creativity on the forum of a licensed game. I mean, let's repeat this slowly. You laugh about Blizzard ripping off of asian movies in a game titled Star Wars ?