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Episode 1: 3D


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LiquidHayter
02.10.2012 , 03:16 AM | #1
I have just returned from watching Episode 1 in 3D, and I am completely baffled at some of the major plot points, among other things. I watched the midnight premiere back in its original release, and as a kid, I enjoyed it... Of course I enjoyed it, its Star effin Wars. This doesnt mean however that you can have such a stupid plot line up the rest of the saga.

1) The biggest plot hole is the decision for a vote of "No Confidence" in the former Supreme Chancellor. If he was backed by greedy corporations or bureaucrats, then while the hell would Amidala's proposal even get acknowledged, let alone get accepted? That makes absolutely no sense.

2) The whole midichlorian thing to explain the power of the Force.... I dont need to explain this, and if I do, you are on the wrong forum. Its dumb, pointless, and backwards.

3) As technologically advanced as this universe is... Why did no one believe Amidala during her Senate hearing that Naboo was actually invaded?? I guess this galaxy has no form of media whatsoever.

4) The whole Anakin blowing up a Trade Federation control ship is absurd...

5) The lack of an actual main character baffles me too. If anyone knows who the real main character is in Episode 1, please explain this to me.

Other gripes, be it small or big, I guess:

No Han Solo-ish type characters in the prequels. We get to see plenty of bounty hunters, but no daring, charming character.. Although I feel like young Obi-Wan was quite charming throughout, just not the same as Han is.

Do Jedi, or better yet, anyone in the future, not mind the smell of burning flesh? Theres better ways to burn a body..

I am not sure whether every cast member just did their absolute worse, or if the direction Lucas wanted were for cardboard acting... No one displays emotion.. I get the reason behind Jedi, as well as Queen Amidala, but Shmi? Padme? Especially Padme, through this character the Queen can say or show her emotions as she pleases. When C-3P0 shows more emotion than your actors.... Something may be wrong.

On the plus side:

Podracing!

Duel of the Fates!

Qui-Gon Jinn! = Liam Neeson

Natalie Portman!

::End gripes::
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internaty
02.10.2012 , 03:35 AM | #2
Sure i will bite.

First of what those any of that has to do with star wars episode one the phantom manace in 3 demeinal view?

Second we all know about the many mistake's made and while epesoide one if my favorite you dont have to like it.

Third there is no prove the supremme chancelor was corrupt that was just power play from palpitine and even if he was corrupt he just outlived his usefullness to the buracrats there not going risk there neck for a "employ"

fourth: We must move quikly to disable all communications down there aka avoid the republic from noticing what is going on.

Five: the entire point of episode one was to show how ineffecent the republic was.

Six: the main hero's where obi-one kanobi qui-gon-gin padme amadala and anakin skywalker
jarjar r2d2 C3PO captian panaka and smee skywalker(anakins mother) where support.

Seven: episode one is my favorite because it showed the republic befor the wars.
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DarthGuru
02.10.2012 , 04:09 AM | #3
I just got back from seeing the midnight showing! It was great.

The 3-D is good--a little subtle--but good. Nothing is really jumping out at you or anything. They (Lucas and company) have just added depth of field to the movie and overall I thought it was well done. The scenes looked... real I guess would be the best word. Definitely none of the strobing effect seen in previous 2D to 3D conversions. Again, well done!

This is the version from the Blue Ray release. No additional scenes or changes from what i could tell.

Highly recommended to all the fans! I will certainly be seeing it at least one more time before the weekend is done.

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Toonces
02.10.2012 , 04:34 AM | #4
Ok, I'm gonna take a stab at this. It's been a long while since I've seen the film, but I beleive I remember this all right,

1) I never got the impression the Chancellor was corrupt or anything, but merely a politition who beleived more in legnthy debate and procedure than quick action, something that that the other senate members merely tolerated. I figured that his popularity had been waning, and that removing him was probably only a matter of time, and something that Palpy wanted to try and speed up.

2) Meh, Lucas wanted some kind of scientific explanation behind the force, whatever, was kinda a dumb decision, but it didn't ruin the force for me like it did some.

3) Yeah, I'm not entirely sure about this one either, though it relates to #1. If images off the TV were showing that your government needed to take action, yet your senate decided to hold a legnthy debate, would you be pissed? Would you maybe call up your representative and ***** and moan until they took action? I kinda beleive this is where Lucas was going with this. I was a Poly-Sci major in college, so to me this actually makes sense, I don't think Lucas wrote this part very well though.

4) Yeah, this was dumb.

5) Qui-Gon is who I would point to, or Obi, though this movie was designed to be more of an ensemble film, so this isn't really an area of concern for me.

Your other gripes:

Yeah, a Han Solo type would have been a welcome addition, but I beleive this was actually Natalie Portman's intended role, at least in Lucas' eyes. Break ground with the female "swashbuckler", though this didn't really work.

Jedi like to burn bodies, whatever floats their boat.

Interestingly enough, this was the best directed film IMO, by far, it just went downhill from there. I'm not sure why this is, wether Lucas was a little less controlling because he had so much stuff going on, since all the day to day production stuff was new to him, or wether having someone of Liam Neeson's caliber on the set day in and day out made him do things differently in order to keep the actors happy, but after watching this film, and comparing it to the last two movies, it really seems like there are two completely different directors at the helm.

Anyway, ramdom responces.
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GlaDOSowen
02.10.2012 , 05:13 AM | #5
Watched the midnight premiere, too. It was awesome
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Tacobella
02.10.2012 , 05:20 AM | #6
ive just come back from watching it myself

i loved it

why no advertisement for SWTOR??

you no like mo money?

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Talkarr
02.10.2012 , 05:37 AM | #7
I've also seen it in 3D. The effects were as expected from a 13 year old movie, but i actually think they made the movie better! For instance, the podracing was just awesome to see in 3D. However, i have the same issue with 3D when going to the movies as i do with any movie i watch in 3D there. It isn't crancked up enough. I know they have to cater to the the majority, but i'm used to watching stereoscopic 3D every day, so i can easily watch a movie where the images are a lot more apart than the standard. Guess I'll have to wait for the Blu-Ray release of the 3D movies for this :P
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skidrows
02.10.2012 , 07:09 AM | #8
Hard to see how they can make Disney advertising any better in 3d.

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MustrumRidcully
02.10.2012 , 07:19 AM | #9
Good to hear that the 3D effects work well. Still, I won't bring myself to watch them again in the cinema.

Thinking back to Phantom Menace, I thought the plot hole for me was:
Why did the Trade Federation blockade Naboo? What did they think they could get out of it? Maybe the name is just leading me astray, but I would expect a Trade Federation to care in some way about trade stuff. SO maybe they want to press Naboo into some kind of contract - but what kind of contract would survive an investigation of the blockade and the assault on the planet?
Someone else said - they did it because Darth Siddious told them to. But why would they follow him in the first place. Now, some of this is a "hindsight" problem. Not every question needs an answer in the first movie, that's why we have a trilogy. But it never really gets answered, and so overall, the first movie seems to lack a sensible plot and a solid motivation for the antagonists.

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Anti_Bodies
02.10.2012 , 10:09 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by LiquidHayter View Post
I have just returned from watching Episode 1 in 3D, and I am completely baffled at some of the major plot points, among other things. I watched the midnight premiere back in its original release, and as a kid, I enjoyed it... Of course I enjoyed it, its Star effin Wars. This doesnt mean however that you can have such a stupid plot line up the rest of the saga.

1) The biggest plot hole is the decision for a vote of "No Confidence" in the former Supreme Chancellor. If he was backed by greedy corporations or bureaucrats, then while the hell would Amidala's proposal even get acknowledged, let alone get accepted? That makes absolutely no sense.

2) The whole midichlorian thing to explain the power of the Force.... I dont need to explain this, and if I do, you are on the wrong forum. Its dumb, pointless, and backwards.

3) As technologically advanced as this universe is... Why did no one believe Amidala during her Senate hearing that Naboo was actually invaded?? I guess this galaxy has no form of media whatsoever.

4) The whole Anakin blowing up a Trade Federation control ship is absurd...

5) The lack of an actual main character baffles me too. If anyone knows who the real main character is in Episode 1, please explain this to me.

Other gripes, be it small or big, I guess:

No Han Solo-ish type characters in the prequels. We get to see plenty of bounty hunters, but no daring, charming character.. Although I feel like young Obi-Wan was quite charming throughout, just not the same as Han is.

Do Jedi, or better yet, anyone in the future, not mind the smell of burning flesh? Theres better ways to burn a body..

I am not sure whether every cast member just did their absolute worse, or if the direction Lucas wanted were for cardboard acting... No one displays emotion.. I get the reason behind Jedi, as well as Queen Amidala, but Shmi? Padme? Especially Padme, through this character the Queen can say or show her emotions as she pleases. When C-3P0 shows more emotion than your actors.... Something may be wrong.

On the plus side:

Podracing!

Duel of the Fates!

Qui-Gon Jinn! = Liam Neeson

Natalie Portman!

::End gripes::
umm have you not seen the phantom menace since you were a kid, despite having fond memories of it?

why are you reviewing it? You know this movie has been reviewed over 500,000 times right?

why make a topic about it in 3D, and then talk about the plot/story. That isn't 3D and thats not what people cared about when clicking on this thread.