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People are exaggerating the few problems SWTOR has.

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People are exaggerating the few problems SWTOR has.

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wrmrstacrdwower
02.09.2012 , 11:41 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by kristoffbrujah View Post
I was actually a gamer during the 90's and know what a broken game looks like. It's borderline unplayable and not fun. A broken car does not run, a broken TV does not turn on, etc. That's broken.

This game is neither. But since people don't understand the difference between non-functionality and optimization, the word broken is used.
Non functionality would apply to Swtor if the games issues were say Melee tanks having no AoE threat support for AoE abilities. Kind of like when you have engine trouble because you have to replace a fuel line or piston in a car. Almost makes it "broken" but not really. You can still use the vehicle and Melee tank but generally there might be some issues. When a games core mechanics and systems fail, bug, break or others wise faulter it's broken, just as a T.V. does when you can't turn it on, seeing animation delay, fps drops, stuttering etc also means those mechanics and systems are broken.

But hey semantic anecdotes are always the best way to prove you have a point. I mean playing since the 90s, wheew, I would hate to see all those Atari/Concord gamers say hi.

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Holly_MF
02.09.2012 , 11:54 PM | #92
The bugs in this game may not be broken for YOU, but they are for ME, and for many others.

I primarily play so I can raid. I also pvp some, both on my 50 and on a lowbie... typically with a pre-made group. But the bugs have stripped my enjoyment of the game.

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End Game Raiding Bugs

It's a gamebreaking bug when you're resetting an instance multiple times just so you can CLICK on a pylon that for some reason isn't clickable.

It's a gamebreaking bug when something that's supposed to be a DoT one-shots members of your raids.

It's a gamebreaking bug when reticules that are supposed to show up, don't.

It's a gamebreaking bug when you're getting a boss down to less than 3% and he randomly disappears.

It's a gamebreaking bug when you typically like to min/max gear and you go to loot a boss and he either a) doesn't have loot or b) has way less loot than he should have or c) has all inquisitor gear for some reason. (And in all honesty, there's no reason to min/max your gear in this game, because the fights are easy... EXCEPT for the bugs.)

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PVP Bugs

You sit in queue for 10 minutes, get in a game, win, and then it doesn't count. Sure, I can keep playing, but it sucks when it was going to be "one last win" before you log off, and now you can't finish your daily.

They patched this... and now they're patching the same bug... AGAIN!

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I'm not sure what else you guys are doing at 50 that you get so much enjoyment out of. Maybe you're still leveling or leveling an alt. I'm not a big alt person, so maybe this just isn't the game for me. But saying that these are minor bugs is just ridiculous. People are achievement driven and Bioware seems to be doing everything in their power to prevent that.

Oh, it's even better when you submit a ticket about your bug and you get a "customer service droid" replying to you with an answer that has absolutely nothing to do with your bug. (aka, they have zero reading comprehension)

Even at this point, I would have been ok with some of these bugs if they would actually communicate that they recognize that people are having these problems. But it's like they're brushing them under a rug. Rift had issues on certain boss encounters - and yes, it would be frustrating. But they also addressed these bugs quickly, and openly communicated what they were working on.

Anyway, if you guys are enjoying the game, good for you. Just understand that some of these issues are gamebreaking for others.

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Big_Luvin
02.09.2012 , 11:57 PM | #93
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You are just fooling yourself if you don't agree that the PvP bug isn't a big deal. You win but you get NO win, I mean really that's not a problem??? Numerous operation and flashpoint bugs need to be fixed as well. It's not something that can't be fixed but you are beside yourself if you see no problems with these issues. Either that or you do not PvP for your daily or do FP and operations.

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Dunzo
02.09.2012 , 11:59 PM | #94
People complained at WoW Launch for a plethera of reasons.. but keep in mind standards were lower back then. Much, much lower.

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SageH
02.10.2012 , 12:02 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by darkcerb View Post
Is swtor missing almost every decent feature modern mmo's have and that people take for granted? (server transfers/forums/cross server bg's, instances/in game, out of game re-customization) Sure, does it have more bugs then my ant farm? sure. Isn't it missing more graphical configuration then it has? sure.

But guys come on...can't we all just accept what we're given without complaint?

Wont sticking our heads in the sand be far better then trying to get problems addressed?
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SageH
02.10.2012 , 12:14 AM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Mitheril View Post
With the budget avaliable this game should have been amazing, truly amazing, and it's just a decent MMO with excellent voice acting and a story.

Do I like it?, Sure, but if it wasn't for Bioware, story and it being Star Wars I would have quit after a week. Not because it is a bad game, but simply because without those three things it is just plain average in everything.

The issue is that people doesn't want to play average....they want great, and are disappointed with silly mistakes that shouldn't happen from a developer of this quality.
Thank you.
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Lularapio
02.10.2012 , 12:18 AM | #97
I'm 75 and whats this?

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GalacticKegger
02.10.2012 , 12:41 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Dunzo View Post
People complained at WoW Launch for a plethera of reasons.. but keep in mind standards were lower back then. Much, much lower.
Too bad the code for game features doesn't write itself or come in DD plug & play modules. But then again, I hear the tools are so good nowadays that scratch programming and debugging aren't even necessary anymore. Programmers are getting replaced with bionic sims that come with organic function libraries. Plug 'em in, push a button and bang - there ya go. Haptic conversions included. Plus they're macro'd so they never screw up. Bugs? Thing of the past. Ask Microsoft. Why use live voice actors, orchestras and an entire recording enterprise when simple synth sound design is so much cheaper? Would have saved 5 minutes in the scrolling credits alone. No need for animated cut scenes either. I mean, what's the sense of interacting with cinema when I could be robotically gear grinding for ilevel supremacy in a game where ilevel supremacy doesn't matter?

Man, can't wait for that Android port of Rift.
Can we please just have our pre-KotFE SWTOR MMORPG back?

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Snido
02.10.2012 , 03:13 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by GalacticKegger View Post
Too bad the code for game features doesn't write itself or come in DD plug & play modules. But then again, I hear the tools are so good nowadays that scratch programming and debugging aren't even necessary anymore. Programmers are getting replaced with bionic sims that come with organic function libraries. Plug 'em in, push a button and bang - there ya go. Haptic conversions included. Plus they're macro'd so they never screw up. Bugs? Thing of the past. Ask Microsoft. Why use live voice actors, orchestras and an entire recording enterprise when simple synth sound design is so much cheaper? Would have saved 5 minutes in the scrolling credits alone. No need for animated cut scenes either. I mean, what's the sense of interacting with cinema when I could be robotically gear grinding for ilevel supremacy in a game where ilevel supremacy doesn't matter?

Man, can't wait for that Android port of Rift.
Whats the sense in dumping more time and money into the music and voice acting then into the actual game? Because that's what the game feels like. As far as Android grinding, once you get past lvl 30 thats all you do. As to the rest of it they had 6 years and $200million, this is not even close to what you would expect from that kind of money.
I wish I had listened to the Admiral before I bought a 6 month subscription, because this game was definitely A TRAP!!!

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oakamp
02.10.2012 , 03:21 AM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by ValaxDarkseer View Post
Does SWTOR have problems and the occassional bug? Of course. Every game does. WoW had way more bugs than SWTOR at launch but did any of you complain about that? Prolly not

My point is that most of the problems being mentioned are likely greatly exaggerated and in some cases have been made up entirely by trolls (fake ban posts for example). Most performance issues are on the users end because of low end computers as Bioware has already stated.

Please stop complaining about problems which are not Biowares fault or will soon be fixed. They are working hard and gave us one of the greatest MMO's ever made (with the best story by far btw )
if swtor is kotor3 or another console game,
i will give it high score after they fix bugs,
but it is a MMO, and charge u $15 per month,
so ppl didnt exaggerate it.