Gunslinger's in PvP you must be joking

What I'd improve with Gunslinger/Sniper...

1) Give us the option to choose the cover we roll to (make it a short cd if you really need to). Cover is one of the most hindering abilities we've got in PvP, and when you press roll to cover, and it simply slams you right into cover where you are doesn't help.

2) More armor pen, so that we can break through some of the heavy armor classes (just enough so that we don't get laughed at when we shoot them with our super soakers). At this point they can simply outsustain us. Their survivability owns our burst damage and lack of mobility.

3) Increase the damage on our DOTs (decreasing how long they last if need be to compensate). Dirty Fighting's only redeeming qualities are completely ignoring armor, and stopping people from capping points. That was one of the few reasons I was even playing DF.

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4) Add CD reduction and energy reduction to some of the higher up skills in the DF tree. DF has to be one of the most inefficient energy rotations in the game. 20 for vital shot, 20 for shrap bomb, 20 for hem. shots, and 30 for wounding shots.

5) 2/3 or 3/3 in "Black Market Equipment" allows Vital Shots to stack up to 3 times. Each stack would tick every 6 seconds (rather than 3), and the 2nd stack would lose 25% damage/3rd stack would lose 45-50% damage.

Gonna do the math on 5 to make sure that wouldn't be grossly imbalanced. Probably won't even be considered, but it's fun to think about how it it could be improved.

EDIT:

Opening Vital Shots - 350dmg per tick, ticks 6 times, every 3 seconds over 18 seconds.

Second Vital Shots - 260dmg per tick, ticks 3 times, every 6 seconds over 18 seconds.

Third Vital Shots - 190dmg per tick, ticks 3 times, every 6 seconds over 18 seconds.

3450 total damage with those ticks, over about 40 seconds. That really doesn't sound grossly overpowered...

LOL I hit quote on the wrong post chill I totally agree with you as I've seen it

Battlemaster sniper here, and i play mostly as full Lethality/dirty fighting (2/5/34).

I think we are doing fine, if you use the right spec in pvp, i can easily do 9k damage Culls, and my dots ticks for 500-700, they all bypass armor reduction. (Culls can still be dodged if you have Evasion up, tho)
so i don't see any problem in our damage, BUT if you take a look at how our energy works, you will feel bad for us =/
and we can't regen our energy as easily as Operatives can, also, i have to waste like 50 energy to full dot someone + use weaking blast, that alone is enough to mess up our energy gain for a little while.


If we are to receive a buff, it should be energy related, because our damage is fine, imo.

Agree with you OP. There are many posts like this ( there is a reason why sniper/gunslinger is least played class in game ) yet Bioware just seems to ignore it. In fact they gave us a slight 'nerf' in the last patch...no comments on that

cause not like your IMMUNE to CC while in cover....

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OH WAIT yes you are =D

this is why dont have alot of tools of other dps classes because they CAN NOT be CC'd lept at, ect the idea behind the gunslinger and sniper is to actually keep enemy away from you as long as possible and drop them before they reach you. not saying that is BEST design but it is certainly not terrible... what i DO think would be easy/nice easy buff is a talent in marksman called shot on the run, basically lets you channel any attack shot you want while moving but reduces movement by 50% while doing it. This way COULD still run a bit and cast something at enemy maybe(then again most of attacks require cover so maybe thats not best solution). BUT over all i feel snipers are amazing! just need a little support to do there job and do alot of damage when given time to do so.

Edit: unless i was lied to at least i was pretty sure they were immune to CC while in cover.

You are not immune to CC in cover AT ALL, you are only immune to a powertech's grapple or assassin/shadows death grip ability. They have a long cooldown ability that makes them immune to Cc for 20's but it's hard to time the right moment to use that as it's reactive and not passive so yea they can be stunned lept at etc when in cover when that ability is down.

And thats all i think They need to be brought in line, one movement speed haste ability to displace to a new position when things get too hot(or to regain some energy as they are energy hogs) and they would be fine

lol i'm not asking for the world here just some common sense

My lvl 30 gunslinger that is a joke alt is my most vicious class. I can get 300k damage in a warzone, while eating an apple. I've done that, snipers and gunslingers are so easy to play. Sure if i get mobbed there is little I can do to stop people. But I can do even less on my 50 sentinel. It isn't even comparable. I can hit a person for around 9k easy like clockwork, as long as I time it right.

I suppose a lot of people don't know how to play, but I barely play my smuggler but when I do warzones I absolutely lay waste. I wish I felt so powerful on my jedi, that is the one thing I hate the most. I feel more like a jedi on my slinger than I do my sentinel.

Maybe not 50 but they are pain in the *** at 10-49 bracked.

lol LIES thats all i can say to that because at lvl 30 in full purple geared by purple barrels and cybertechs purple mods I never hit 300k with dirty fighting and there's no way you had the armor pen to hit that with sharpshooter and stay alive without two healers on your back constantly. You either fought the worst groups ALIVE and in which case you only got one or two BG's with half that dps and stopped because if you kept running EVERYONE WOULD BULLSYEYE YOU AFTER HITTING 300K and you'd be focus'd fired every BG after till you quit or did 50-100k in the top ten till you left.

I'm starting to wonder if you've ever in fact PVP'd. Having full purples means NOTHING with Bolster in place. You do realize that, don't you? Stats get normalized. Don't believe me? Go into a PVP match with just your weapon, no armor. You'll still be able do decent damage. Well, maybe not you but I've seen people doing it. It's quite funny.

I think I'm starting to smell troll.