What Effect Did Star Wars: The Old Republic’s Launch Have on World of Warcraft?

I was talking about about WoW, reading comprehension fail.

Anyone who doesn't know that blizzard putting the annual pass in months before Swtor came out (conveniently right in the same quarter they are presenting earnings from) was there to pad the loss of subs they were going to get, is pretty ignorant.

Blizzard is just great at PR and marketing.

Actually anyone capable of doing the math of winter-induced re-subbing and annual pass kinda shouldn't be surprised now. However subscribers aren't the value to look at, it's PCU and even then you have to check on per region basis. Lots of people like me around being subscribed but not playing.

Blizzard has always, always been one step ahead of its competition.. and they continue to do so.

There's another really, really important factor here. If that blue icon is on the box, it's going to be an amazing, quality title. Period. Blizzard has always released the best computer games and they always will..

Me as well. I'm willing to bet a huge chunk of the "over 1 million" annual passers don't actually play.

Let's also not forget that most of blizzards subs come from overseas, which isn't the case with Swtor. In fact a huge chunk of them are asian subs which aren't actually subs at all, just some strange method of billing their internet cafe's.

This is so stupid. Nothing will ever kill WoW. How can you kill WoW when it has made more money than any other 1 game in the history of games?

ToR isn't going anywhere either. It has had one of the most successful MMO launches in the history of MMOs. It is also the fastest growing MMO ever, DESPITE all the optimization problems.

Does anyone even consider the fact that Swtor targest sci-fi fans, and WoW targets fantasy fans? Those 2 don't go anywhere. Fantasy nerds stay with WoW, potentially go to Guild Wars 2, but they're not touching Star Wars. It's not the **** they're interested in.

Perhaps Blizz pissed them off with their new Pandamon expansion. Guess what, they're still not going to play Swtor because they're not star wars fans, just like how sci-fi fans don't give a **** about WoW.

I don't give a **** about wow, never will. Won't give a **** about Guild Wars. Star Wars is here to stay. The end.

Blizzard knows how to test thoroughly and the art of polishing. Nothing would leave the house which they are not happy to play with themselves even so they are self-critical alot. Took them a while to get to the latter point but that's at least been so since WotLK.
That's basically their key strengths in a nutshell.

First off the casual crowd is all in WoW and they are all 85's because you can level in 2 days now since they made it so easy just for the casuals. If you think the players in WoW are elitists then you have issues.

Yes I am saying the WoW playerbase isnt loyal and that is because they are almost all casuals that dont care about the game but just want to get everything because they are in the game.

Most of the casuals are also lazy so they would rather sit in ORG or SW and click on a button to do LOLFR rather than have to level 50 levels and start all over again.

It didn't have any effect.
Certainly not the effect that many were saying it would have.

No it isnt , 1 mmo doesnt have to fail so the other can succeed. It would be even better if TOR got its 1.7million subscribers and alot of those where not mmo players before. They expanded the market that means.