"INC LEFT" That is not a good way to call INCs

INC left should always mean left coming out of spawn. If you mean left as it appears on the map then why not just say west since the map is always oriented north?

If you mean left on the map, say west. If you mean left coming out of spawn, say left.

Ah hell. The voice of reason.
You are in fact 100% correct.

The real issue is then figuring where west is or where either spawn is.

out in the thick of it i can always find east by looking at the main map or looking at spawn.

I think the only place i can not see spawn or just know its location is under mid and the ramps of mid on CW.

The biggest issue with left and right is on VS where for whatever reason they have made it so the left objective is right of spawn.

Can't tell if serious. Do you even realize what you just said? YES, your left will always be to the left of where you're looking, regardless of what direction you're facing. THAT is why left/right should not be used for calling incs, BECAUSE if you ask everyone in the warzone to point to their left with their hand, no one will be pointing at the same direction. East/west are universal, as they are directions on the map, which is static.

The fact that left/right advocates even have to explain to people that it's left/right to spawn or to map means it's an impractical way to call incs. Use a method that everyone (who has at least graduated elementary school) understands without explanation.

why do people always got to mix up the pot

Let the **** simmer as is, or it comes out like the crap you have created


Since beta, left has been left of the start, and right has been the one on the right...

There is nothing more to complain about.. Anyone who says right is left on the map.. is the problem

Seriously... why are so many people still talking about this

If you are calling out an INC you are not giving directions on how to get there to the people at the other point. They CAN see what is going on. Therefore the only valuable information to know is that the other control point has inc and you should head that way. When you call Left or Right you are telling the people at the spawn who can't see which point is getting hit which way to go when they leave the spawn.

Left and Right are not map positions

The Maps have no diffinitive orientation because of a lack of a compass to define orientation and are thus directionless.

Giving directions all requires everyone to have a comon orientation to begin with.

Spawn orientation is common for all players across all maps regardless of which side of the map you start on.

if i knew it will go for so long i could make some popcorns

Voidstar specifically says west and east bombs planted. Ilum has northern and southern assault. The orientation on those maps are the same. Using your powers of common sense you can now apply that to other maps.

You are right... but really... on VS calling left and right is still simpler than east west.
You are going to have teach people where north is as its not on any of the WZ maps.

Its hard enough to get people to go in one direction much more so to explain to people where east is.

I will try to get people to use east west. i just have never seen it.

left and right are so much simpler.

If you will take it upon yourself to explain this unwritten rule to every person on your server, and to any new players who join the server, AND have everyone agree that this is the one true rule, THEN this method is valid. Also, you're not only telling people who had just respawned the location to reinforce; a lot of times you will need help from people who are standing at places other than the spawn. When they read "left" or "right", they have to first imagine themselves standing at spawn, in order to determine which direction is "left".

I don't know what simpler means in that context. They both require just as much effort to type and read.

As you said you agree, so I don't understand what is the negative to using directions that are not open to interpretation.