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"INC LEFT" That is not a good way to call INCs

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"INC LEFT" That is not a good way to call INCs

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Xenon-se
02.09.2012 , 05:00 PM | #371
lol at 37 pages



Left = Help defend the EDGE base if you currently defend center and it also mean use the LEFT speeder when you spawn.

Right = Help defend the EDGE base if you currently defend center and it also mean use the RIGHT speeder when you spawn.

How can this be a hard concept to gasp?



If someone use West he obviously mean the west side of the map.
If someone use Right he obviously mean use the right speeder when you spawn.




recap time.

1)
There is no "left" or "right" when you use a map to navigate. When refering to a map you use west, north, south, east etc. It is perfectly viable to navigate using a map by turning it "up-side-down" so if you are facing south while reading the map.

2)
If you face north you will have west on your left hand side and east on your right hand side.
If you face east you will have north to your left hand side and south on your right hand side.
If you face south you will have east on your left hand side and west on your right hand side.

3)
If your team control the center node and one edge node and you are currently on the center node when someone say "inc 4 left, need help" - you don't even need to know if it is the east or the west base. It is the OTHER base you are not guarding. If you are alive and guarding a point all you need to read is that the other base is in trouble for you to break combat and go there to help. You don't even need directions.

4)
If you just spawned you need to know if you should take the RIGHT speeder, the CENTER speeder or the LEFT speeder.

5)
When you spawn ande someone say "go east base" you will first have to check the map to figure out if the left speeder or the right speeder will take you to the east base. Most people will just be confused and take the center speeder. Others will take the Right speeder when someone say East base.... EVEN if your ship is located north on the map (and thus you should take the left speeder to reach the east base).




Left = Help defend the EDGE base if you currently defend center and it also mean use the LEFT speeder when you spawn.

Right = Help defend the EDGE base if you currently defend center and it also mean use the RIGHT speeder when you spawn.

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Caldus
02.09.2012 , 05:03 PM | #372
Quote: Originally Posted by VoidSpectre View Post
C'mon people. Left and right are subjective. Sometimes people mean left out of the rez point and sometimes they mean left on the map.


How about we grow up and use cardinal directions like intelligent adults. Use "INC WEST" so we don't have to decipher your subjective meaning
Don't worry, they capped 2 seconds before he said that anyways.

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CrunchyGremlin
02.09.2012 , 05:08 PM | #373
Quote: Originally Posted by Blasphemerr View Post
It's a great way to define incoming enemies. What doesn't work is every other person trying to redefine them because they don't understand the concept of relative direction. I've have more failures because people call; "INC SNOW GRASS WEST EAST" blah blah blah.

Assuming your team hasn't been lobotomized into believing that the working strategy is attempting to capture both left and right, which almost never works. And you control middle/left, you can stand at middle and direct people all day. Anyone who went right, is going under to left, anyone who drops down and goes left, is going left. Everyone else is going middle.

there was even a big thread here about CW tactics and i dont remember anyone using "east" "west" to talk about directions.

I am going to try the map at some point and see if people can get it.

I know i get lost in CW often enough so that i have to get my bearings. the fastest way so far to get my bearings is to look at the drop ships.
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Aaoogaa
02.09.2012 , 05:11 PM | #374
All inc calls are based on the mini map and how it is oriented. So the location on the left side of the minimap wouild be inc left or west...

If you hold up your hands the index finger and thumb that make an L is your left hand.
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DeltaGun
02.09.2012 , 05:15 PM | #375
On my server, Dreshdae Cantina, it is based on the spawn point for the Republic.

If you call LEFT it better be LEFT of spawn or you're going to get yelled at and hated on.

Of course, the only time this problem arises is on Void Star for Republic, which is why I believe many players get confused.

Heres another way of looking at it:

For Republic, you always spawn to the south on Alderaan(republic side) and Huttball(frogdog side). Thus Left/Rightof spawn always correspond to east/west. The only time this changes is on Void Star(defender) and Huttball(Rotworm). Thus, for consistency, left right of spawn is used even when they do not correspond to East/West, which is by far the minority of times anyways.

I can see Empire having a different interpretation of Left/Right because of the way they are usually oriented on the map.

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Dreadvg
02.09.2012 , 05:18 PM | #376
Quote: Originally Posted by VoidSpectre View Post
left is subjective to each person. east and west are absolute with map direction
If your facing south your left is to your left

If your facing north your left is to your left


Therefor your wrong and people should know wich way is left.

/thread.

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Eltohan
02.09.2012 , 05:19 PM | #377
Quote: Originally Posted by VoidSpectre View Post
left is subjective to each person. east and west are absolute with map direction

THIS. /endthread.

People are confused cause when they get out of their spawn point they think it's left of it... and often is not where is left on map.

Alderan civil war: from Imp POV, left of the starting point is in fact EAST (so right on the map). As a result, the left speeder takes you to the EAST node. (and vice versa for the right speeder) ...
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Tikume
02.09.2012 , 05:20 PM | #378
its just what happens when they make the map mirriord and look exactly the same, if one turret was red and the other blue we wouldnt have this problem.
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DeltaGun
02.09.2012 , 05:22 PM | #379
Quote: Originally Posted by Dreadvg View Post
If your facing south your left is to your left

If your facing north your left is to your left


Therefor your wrong and people should know wich way is left.

/thread.
THIS. The only thing that should be more easy to tell than East/West is Left/Right.

But it is very hard for people to remember which side is Left and Right, because that would require being competent at something: a feat for many MMORPG gamers.

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Stilly
02.09.2012 , 05:22 PM | #380
Quote: Originally Posted by Khadroth View Post
Can't dispute the point though, can you?
It is a forum, I could dispute anything with impunity if inclined. I could also shoot out one line quips like you and cool out right?