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Dungeon Finder Needed Badly


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BlueSkittles
02.09.2012 , 04:13 PM | #311
So WoW only lost 100k subscribers during the time of SWTOR's release. Wonder what that means for SWTOR's future and the timeframe for implementing a LFD feature.

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Wrender
02.09.2012 , 04:14 PM | #312
We have a dungeon finder LFG tool. It works just fine . Problem is most of the player base are too ignorant or simply would rather whine about something than to use it. If people would simply type /who and fill in the blanks it would work great. Or better yet simply click on the location icon right above your chat box. As to why people don't use this most awesome feature is beyond me. I don't think most people even knows about it, Good gravey people take a second or two to slow down and smell the roses. There is also a game option panel with all sorts of cool things and sadly they prob don't even know what options are either...Sheesh....!
The truth shall set you free

The truth shall piss you off

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Touchbass
02.09.2012 , 04:14 PM | #313
Quote: Originally Posted by Depredator;2700188

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Prior to the LFD tool in "that other game", the server's tanks and healers had reputations[/COLOR]. You knew who the good tanks were. You knew the names of the good healers. And, you knew who to steer clear of. I found that the concept of server-wide reputations seemed to disappear not long after the LFD tool was implemented. Sure, you still knew a few folks that you would trust to tank or heal for your raid group, but it was far less pronounced than before.

Anywho, I'm sure that BW will implement some form of LFD for flashpoints eventually. Will I use it? Yeah, probably. At least, I'll use it until I'm sick of running flashpoints and end up running in circles around Fleet waiting for the next Op. Sounds very familiar to me.

These things do come at a cost to the server community. Will that matter to impatient kids? No, it won't.
You should read my post on page 30, it basically highlights that we need to move the focus off dungeons cause we don't want to run them 30 times.

The part I highlighted, tanks did not run content over and over again unless they were in a guild helping someone. The content lasts 1-2 weeks at most so how on earth do you get a reputation? The reputation only exists for the 4-5 hour power gamers who treat this game as a hobby which is fine but the rest of us who play this just like a game do not care about reputation and what not.
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Nepumuk
02.09.2012 , 04:15 PM | #314
Imagine players could do significantly more flashpoints and heroics while leveling. Then they would reach 50, ready to progress into hard modes and operations. The number of max level players, with an actual solid base of experience of how to play their class in group situations, should increase a lot.

Just came to my mind not having it seen mentioned before, so I felt like sharing.
/cjoin LFG on The Red Eclipse

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Touchbass
02.09.2012 , 04:15 PM | #315
Quote: Originally Posted by Wrender View Post
We have a dungeon finder LFG tool. It works just fine . Problem is most of the player base are too ignorant or simply would rather whine about something than to use it. If people would simply type /who and fill in the blanks it would work great. Or better yet simply click on the location icon right above your chat box. As to why people don't use this most awesome feature is beyond me. I don't think most people even knows about it, Good gravey people take a second or two to slow down and smell the roses. There is also a game option panel with all sorts of cool things and sadly they prob don't even know what options are either...Sheesh....!
I don't even have to respond anymore, I just have to highlight. This is great.

/facepalm

EDIT: incase there is confusion, you calling players ignorant when you are in fact ignorant of the current tool not working warranted the facepalm
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Ethern
02.09.2012 , 04:15 PM | #316
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
I sort of feel like anti-LFD are corporate stiffs who think unions aren't neccessary because they pay an incremental bit above minimal wage.
Yeah unions kill the community as well. By the way the community kills the community. Everything kills the community actually. Am I right?

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Ethern
02.09.2012 , 04:17 PM | #317
Quote: Originally Posted by Wrender View Post
We have a dungeon finder LFG tool. It works just fine.
Hence this thread right?
By the way it works even greater on low pop servers. True facts.

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grueber
02.09.2012 , 04:18 PM | #318
Quote: Originally Posted by Wrender View Post
We have a dungeon finder LFG tool. It works just fine . Problem is most of the player base are too ignorant or simply would rather whine about something than to use it. If people would simply type /who and fill in the blanks it would work great. Or better yet simply click on the location icon right above your chat box. As to why people don't use this most awesome feature is beyond me. I don't think most people even knows about it, Good gravey people take a second or two to slow down and smell the roses. There is also a game option panel with all sorts of cool things and sadly they prob don't even know what options are either...Sheesh....!
I see. So a tool that less than 5 people use at Fleet with 130+ is a failure because of the players.

A tool that does not span zones.

A tool that does not allow filtering by level.

I guess that's why they call people like you fanboys.

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Wrender
02.09.2012 , 04:19 PM | #319
Quote: Originally Posted by BlueSkittles View Post
Low population servers and playing at odd hours. Both of which are fixed with cross-server LFD.
Uhhh Sorry this is not WoW. And I hope to god it never becomes anything like WoW. There are more things to do than run dungeons all the time.

We have a LFD tool that would work great if people would simply come out of thier coma and use the damn thing!

Good gooby-de doop!
The truth shall set you free

The truth shall piss you off

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Daelenn
02.09.2012 , 04:20 PM | #320
Quote: Originally Posted by Depredator View Post
I'm basically against having a dungeon finder. At least, I'm against a cross-server dungeon finder.

I found that, yes, I could do a far higher number of instances when that particular tool was available; however, it wasn't long before the last thing I wanted to do was another instance with some random folks. Not to mention that my ignore list was becoming cluttered with toons from different servers to the point that it had become full. The attitude that you encounter generally conforms to, "Hey, I'll never see you again, so I'll take whatever loot I want or drop group on the first boss when he fails to drop my item."

Prior to the LFD tool in "that other game", the server's tanks and healers had reputations. You knew who the good tanks were. You knew the names of the good healers. And, you knew who to steer clear of. I found that the concept of server-wide reputations seemed to disappear not long after the LFD tool was implemented. Sure, you still knew a few folks that you would trust to tank or heal for your raid group, but it was far less pronounced than before.

Anywho, I'm sure that BW will implement some form of LFD for flashpoints eventually. Will I use it? Yeah, probably. At least, I'll use it until I'm sick of running flashpoints and end up running in circles around Fleet waiting for the next Op. Sounds very familiar to me.

These things do come at a cost to the server community. Will that matter to impatient kids? No, it won't.
I completely agree with you here. The longer I play the game, the more I'm starting to feel like there IS going to be need of some sort of group finder tool like LFD or at the very least a set of global channels so that you're not stuck on the fleet shouting for an hour before giving up.

What I don't want to see however, is a cross-server system that will end up killing the community. I really like the PvP system so far, because at 50 I'm getting to know people and building my own reputation as well. I haven't seen a game with such a strong community and reputations that mattered since I played Final Fantasy XI.

Do I use the LFD tool in that other game that won't be mentioned? Yeah I do, because it's convenient. I also hate it at the same time, because you come across 1 person out of every 20-30 you group with that actually speaks. I'm sick of groups that almost say nothing the entire time and leave without a word, either at the end or after the boss they wanted didn't drop the gear they wanted.

I really do think we can find a balance between community and convenience, and I would rather wait for a solution like that than to see a quick fix thrown in that dilutes the community.