"INC LEFT" That is not a good way to call INCs

I think the only solution here...
Minimap marking and attention.

Like WoT.
"Attention sector k7"

This can be further limited to a valor rank.
Need at least valor rank 20 to mark the map and/or be an ops officer.

hmm..

hey! i breath through my mouth!

Thats exactly my point, this whole thread proves how people suck at objective labeling. When they call for Omaha, you look at the map, you know where Omaha is, and you execute. Land nav is not even the issue here, its understanding what the objective is, which comes way before land nav.

Also, the problem Ive seen is people calling west, and people going east....the confusion seems to happen more as to people not knowing their cardinal directions. Good thing we dont have NE, SE, NW, etc, man would that throw people off. Labeling things on a map gives a concise objective, you cant argue a label. It is what it is. Forget it being called left, it could be called anything, the problem is knowing what to call the objective, and for the most part, there is an understanding as to what obj "left" is and what "right" is. Replace "left" and"right" with any other word and its still the same objective. The problem is people not knowing East from West. So thats the problem. Im pretty sure the community sets labels. MW has labels, Battlefield has call-outs. MMOs are no different. Learning the call-outs is a must. Using east and west is fine, but understand most players aren't going to use that, they are more likely to use the labels.

Left and right are subjective to the direction a person is facing. I know in BG's when somebody calles Lft or Right, my first thought is WHOS left or right, and then find out which direction they are facing.

When looking at a map, its East West North South.

Even easier if you have no idea what east and west are for civil war, Snow, Middle, Grass. I think everybody has seen snow and can easially identify it unless you need Advanced Snow color Classifications

For void star its best for east west, as map doesnt rotate.

I'm not good at moving and typing at the same time.

Public humiliation is the only way they will learn. The point is that PUGs will often call the wrong direction, resulting in the point being capped. Going up against good pre-mades, this will can and will decide the match right there.

It takes 8 seconds to cap a door. How long does it take to go to the wrong location, realize they made the wrong call and go to the proper location? Long enough to lose the game.

This is single player WoW mentality at its finest. If there was money on the line you sure as hell wouldn't be saying 'left' and 'right'.

Look at the capped and uncapped objectives on your WZ Map in the top right hand corner of your screen. Left and Right are based on that. Don't be a noob. Thanks.

Subjective -
1. existing in the mind; belonging to the thinking subject rather than to the object of thought ( opposed to objective).
2. pertaining to or characteristic of an individual; personal; individual: a subjective evaluation.
3. placing excessive emphasis on one's own moods, attitudes, opinions, etc.; unduly egocentric.
4. Philosophy . relating to or of the nature of an object as it is known in the mind as distinct from a thing in itself.
5. relating to properties or specific conditions of the mind as distinguished from general or universal experience.

Please use relative.

east/west is a lie theres only left/right

I recently had a Civil war game where I pointed out that saying "inc left" doesn't really help, because it could be seen as left from your position in the imperial spawnpoint (which would be the right map point), or left on the map. Only west/east are completely clear ways to designate targets, because west/east ALWAYS refer to map positions.

Then the person who said "inc left" said "inc west"... and guess what? Reps took our eastern base. Such fail...

P.S. To those point out "left" always means the left side of the map: When starting as imperial, (at least on my server) someone most often says "1-2 left, rest middle" whereas left means left seen from our position, i.e. right on the map, i.e. the outer point that is faster to reach for imps than reps.

So right there from the start left means as seen from your perspective. Then suddenly when the game is on it MAY change to mean left on the map? That's just crappy description. West/East it non-ambiguous.

P.P.S. I could live with snow/middle/grass too, but nobody says that on my server.