remember when mmo groups had more than 3 functions?

Because it sucked to have to look for a tank, a healer AND a CCer. Getting rid of CC classes and moving the CC abilities into all the classes was one of the best things that ever happened to MMORPGs.

Good times my friend. I heard about it the next day as the news flooded all servers. It was said that the server couldn't handle that amount of people engaing in combat. Basically people were DCing constantly and computers bogging down to a few fps due the amount of actions taking place!

I might just re install the game off my originals and revisit memory lane first hand. Kudos to you for resurfacing that memory!!

Just as another example, I was apart of THIS in Asheron's Call on the Thistledown server. It was one of the most amazing experiences I've ever had in an MMO.

Ew, you just reminded me of Runescape. CURSE YOU!

Nostalgia is, by definition, irrational. They're remembering an Everquest that never existed.

I dont give 2 cents about this new holy trinity format. 4 people (max) in a group is REALLY boring!! Cry all you want about "the new way mmo's are going to be" and grouping requirements are a cheap way to get subscriptions.. THATS RIGHT. MMO means "massive multiplayer" I expect to PAY a subscription to get into group of a variety of different classes in which you see how having a "debuffer" and a "mez" class in your group etc, and having the ability to fight higher end baddies was benifical. Thats what made MMO's great. The diversity of others and including your own skills to make a kick *** group! = high XP gain. You would still have your class quests, which would reward better class gear.

The spamming of "LF1M Healer" and knowing that is the only indregient that is needed for the group (cause you know they have tank and dps) is superiorly boring!! I have defended this game to an extent, and Im done doing that, because I thought PVP would hold me over after 50, but people are screaming it: "3 warzones over and over to get the gear" is really lame. Not having an open world to explore is lame. Im not saying bw hasnt made an impressive game, the game runs great, they streamlined crafting (pointless) and shows polish, but Im finally getting to the point where I don't think this game is for me. Coming from Pre-NGE SWG, the game engine may be dated now, but the original idea was THE best MMO ever..unlockable elite class, huge groups, actual exploration or solo play, and social classes.. it brought all the different flavors of gamers together. And thier speeder bikes moved like they should. Swtor speeders are granny style hover-rounds.

Im not venting to gain praises or ignite the hate trolls, Im just saying, grouping and socializing was a major part of playing an mmo, and the way things are now, is just as cookie cutter as you can get it. I log into the game, only to know that Im limited to 4 player groups. Sad and uneventful adventure. The class story was great, but after 50 there is nothing, and that is a lack of planning on bw's part. I love star wars, I love video games, but swtor is not an mmo by definition. Im waiting on this next major update in March, and will decide to keep the subscription or not.. best of luck to all.

Heh ....I was there ... That was more than likely some of th e best memories of MMO gaming I'll ever have since games are no longer made anywhere near as hard or epic because players do not enjoy such things any longer which is sad

But hey Kung Fu pandas will be out soon and easy mode pvp guild wars and many others as well as SWTOR

.... What a great memory from a long time ago

What actually happened is that after that Sleeper went down, 3 guys took all the loot and thumbed their noses at the other 177 people and laughed. They used them.

Go go community!

I actually never played Everquest. My first MMO was, if you want to call it that, Diablo 1 and 2. Then I moved onto World of Warcraft (gasp!).

Sounds like these people need to go play Everquest if this is what they're lusting after. There are still servers available from what I hear.

This game has four party slots and three roles. That is not going to change, and reminiscing in General about a game that has no business being discussed in said General forums wont do anybody any good.

Go post in the EQ forums about how hardcore things used to be, and leave us plebeians alone to enjoy our crapfest of a game.

The group dynamics in CoH are what I really miss. We'd do entire TFs without a healer, just because the correct combination of buffs and debuffs could be so powerful you wouldn't need them. Of course, trying to do anything solo as a healer or a buffer/debuffer was pretty painful, and I'm one of those widely loathed creatures that actually likes to do stuff by myself in MMOs.

I also miss those Krayt Dragon hunts that would sporadically get organized in the early days of SWG. Just hundreds of people milling around without any leadership, following some half-assed directions they found on the forums, then dying in droves once they actually found the thing.

As for the people expressing nostalgia for FFXI, I marvel at you. I'm amazed anyone was able to derive pleasure from that game. It provoked me into a near-homicidal fury everytime I played it.