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"INC LEFT" That is not a good way to call INCs

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"INC LEFT" That is not a good way to call INCs

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Bovinity
02.09.2012 , 11:36 AM | #151
So in this thread...

We have people that think "east" and "west" change based on where you're facing, but "left" and "right" are absolutes.

We have people that say "Left means left on the map, everyone knows that."

We have people that say "Left means left from the spawn, everyone knows that."

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rgizzie
02.09.2012 , 11:39 AM | #152
[QUOTE=VoidSpectre;2687638]C'mon people. Left and right are subjective. Sometimes people mean left out of the rez point and sometimes they mean left on the map.


How about we grow up and use cardinal directions like intelligent adults. Use "INC WEST" so we don't have to decipher your subjective meaning[/QUOTE

There is only one situation where you even need to use right, left, east, west. That is when you hold all three positions in Alderan. Otherwise logic and situational awareness (which very few people that pvp have) is all it takes to know where to go.

for example. if I am on mid and we have one other turret and someone says incoming. Well if I don't see anyone coming to mid I can use logic 101 to figure out that it must be the other turret that needs help.

Also I wish people would look at the map to see where the rest of their team is. Why do you always have one or two idiots on one side of the map while the rest of the team is either defending a point or trying to take the other side. The splitting up strategy doen't work well at all. You have to all hit one point hard and if it doesn't look like you can take it easy make a quick decision to go to the other side as a group.

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Xenon-se
02.09.2012 , 11:39 AM | #153
Quote: Originally Posted by Setsunakai View Post
*facepalm*

ppl should just use East and West, too many people are divided on whether left and right are from the map or from your starting position. You can't argue on what east and West are, plus as an added bonus west will always BE west if you play on your Imp toon
That work even worse.

When someone spawn and i tell them to take the EAST speeder. They will either a) get confused and take the CENTER speeder or b) they will take the RIGHT speeder (even if they should take the LEFT speeder to reach the EAST base because the ship they launch from is located NORTH on the map).

Going Right or Left speeder when someone say EAST depend on if the ship you launch from is located to the north or the south.

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EternalFinality
02.09.2012 , 11:40 AM | #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Bovinity View Post
So in this thread...

We have people that think "east" and "west" change based on where you're facing, but "left" and "right" are absolutes.

We have people that say "Left means left on the map, everyone knows that."

We have people that say "Left means left from the spawn, everyone knows that."
You imply it's an even number. It's not.

Most people, left = left from spawn.

Some small number of fools think cardinal directions are interchangible.

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Varcan
02.09.2012 , 11:41 AM | #155
I have bigger issue in Alderaan when people type "INC west"...

Instead of "1 INC west"...


BUt no...every PuGer is now there, when west didnt even need help...

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Callo
02.09.2012 , 11:42 AM | #156
Quote: Originally Posted by Xenon-se View Post
No. It. Is. Not.

If the ship you launch from is located on the NORHT side of the map. Then the LEFT speeder will take you to the EAST turret, not the WEST turret. Trust me on this one.

Both sides take the LEFT base. But only the side that launch from the SOUTH ship will go to the WEST base when going LEFT. The other team will go to the EAST base when going left (as they are assulting the map from the north).

Do i have to draw a picture before people understand the basic concept of north, south, east and west.

If you face NORTH then you will have WEST on your left hand side.
If you instead face SOUTH (as the other team will) then you will have EAST on your left hand side.

Common guys.. You learn this stuff before grade school...
This was pretty much what I was getting at. You were a bit more serious about it tho. Not everyone is smart enough to look at their map and decipher what directions are what as far as NSEW goes. Left/Right is easy for the more simple minded folk to read. Since I always assume the rest of my team is most likely operating on 4 brain cells, I just use L/R directions. I find this proves more effective. The other difficult part is trying to get people to understand simple directions like, "A few of you need to stay at that point and hold it." or "We already have 3 people here, the rest of you go help hold the other point."
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Xenon-se
02.09.2012 , 11:43 AM | #157
People that spawn, use the LEFT speeder to reach the LEFT base.
(People at center only need to know the edge base is under attack)


If you tell people that spawn to use the EAST speeder they first have to check map and then try to figure out if they should in fact use the LEFT or the RIGHT speeder. Many will fail.
(People at center still only need to know the edge base is under attack)

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Bovinity
02.09.2012 , 11:44 AM | #158
You can't get a puggy to figure out which turret is left, right, east, west, etc...

But I bet you $500 that if you labeled those damn turrets something like:

Turret Edward
Turret Jacob
Turret Bella

You could call an incoming and everyone of those damn puggies would get it right every time. ><

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ExpectWar
02.09.2012 , 11:46 AM | #159
on civil war my server says snow/grass inc
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Auhfel
02.09.2012 , 11:46 AM | #160
Quote: Originally Posted by Grubfist View Post
The majority of people on my server use it as left/right of the spawn facing. But a not-very-small minority use it based on the map.
Left and right are relative directions -- we always use them relative to the spawn point facing on our server.

Anyone who uses left and right to describe locations on a map is retarded -- you would have to know the orientation of an object on a map to describe it's left or it's right. Because you can't tell orientation of an object on the map, left and right is retarded to use. Maps are not meant for lefts and rights, they are meant for easts and wests because easts and wests have no dependancy on orientation.