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Dungeon Finder Needed Badly


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MalignX
02.09.2012 , 04:11 AM | #241
Quote: Originally Posted by MJHoyle View Post
Well I know one thing for certain, if Bioware does decide to add a LFG tool which creates a party out of thin air for me then I will quit the day before they add it. I am having fun at the moment finding and meeting new people, it creates a more social atmosphere in searching and communicating with others. Yes there is the problem of not enough people interested in group things from time to time or there are people who are interested but they're on other planets, and that's why I believe that an LFG tool that allows to do a global search for people interested in heroics/flashpoints is vital. The current LFG system is extremely limiting as it only covers the planet you're on by default and isn't very effective and very few people use it. Half the players who use it only click on it rather than noting down their status and what they're LFG for.

I find the same thing incredibly tedious and wish for it to go away. They are implementing a LFG mechanic, as posted on the first page, so saying you're going to quit doesn't bring anything to the discussion.
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MalignX
02.09.2012 , 04:18 AM | #242
Quote: Originally Posted by eudaemonea View Post
I'd be ok with a same realm flashpoint finder but NO cross server!

I'd like Cross-server.

As it is right now, I have no issue finding a group to do things with. As you find others you like grouping with, put them on friends. The next time you want to fill a group, look at your list and see where those ppl are. If they're sitting on Fleet, ask them to join you. Groups fill for me in 5 minutes or less because I make the effort to find people I like grouping with and ASK them to go with me again.

Plenty of people do have issues finding groups, perhaps your method doesn't work consistently for everyone. Very happy you don't have a problem with it.

If they suck, put them on ignore and forget they exist.

People too lazy to do a minimum amount of work in an MMO do not need to be spoon-fed content with automated systems placing you in groups. If it's cross server, it's only a matter of time before you get the same douche bag experience you had in wow dungeon finder -- which is why I no longer play that game.

You get to decide who is lazy, who should get to experience content, based on what? If you had bad experiences in WoW, that was your experience. I and plenty of others had a very positive experience with the WoW RDF, why should your experiences dictate game-play here, more so than ours? Oh wait, it shouldn't.

Same server finder is fine imo. You'd still have the ability to find those same people to group with again later if you want (or ignore as you will...) and people would have at least some incentive to be team players instead of abusive jerks that comes from anonymous cross server finder systems.

If you have such a easy time finding groups from your friends list, this shouldn't be a problem for you. Especially considering the "RDF Turns People Into Evil Meanies" theory is akin to the full moon being responsible for werewolves
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I would be fine with there being a OPTION to do In Server or Cross Server in the upcoming RDF tool. I'm not interested in compromising beyond that based on opinions, conjecture, and personal testimonies.

I certainly won't be quitting if I don't get my Cross server. Seems a bit childish to make ultimatums.
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Ethern
02.09.2012 , 06:29 AM | #243
Quote: Originally Posted by MJHoyle View Post
Well I know one thing for certain, if Bioware does decide to add a LFG tool which creates a party out of thin air for me then I will quit the day before they add it. I am having fun at the moment finding and meeting new people, it creates a more social atmosphere in searching and communicating with others. Yes there is the problem of not enough people interested in group things from time to time or there are people who are interested but they're on other planets, and that's why I believe that an LFG tool that allows to do a global search for people interested in heroics/flashpoints is vital. The current LFG system is extremely limiting as it only covers the planet you're on by default and isn't very effective and very few people use it. Half the players who use it only click on it rather than noting down their status and what they're LFG for.
I should copy and paste my response, because the same misconceptions are repeated ad eternaem:
1- The LFG tool does not remove your ability to socialize. Whispering, inviting, spamming chanels, emotes, etc are still in the game. What you state is that you let the LFD tool take care of your way to approach people - which people are more likely interested in doing just the group content. Breaking news: you don't have to wait for being in a group to start approaching people. It's as if you complain about your wife in an arranged marriage. Go pick and choose one you like instead. See?

2- A server wide LFG is clearly insufficient and not the solution on low population server. At least with a cross server LFG, those players can be grouped with a larger playerbase than the one limited by their server, and can enjoy doing the group content.
Refusing a cross server LFG tool is selfish.

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LeijkoStarfall
02.09.2012 , 06:41 AM | #244
/ I support this.


I know its more social not to have a LFG tool, but I am social anyways.
But to much time is spent doing nothing waiting for a group, somtimes up to an hour, it is madness. I totally support a LFG tool, and yes you can still continue to add social features to the game.

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Ossoona
02.09.2012 , 06:52 AM | #245
I personally think that a non-cross server LFG tool is acceptable, because it maintains a sort of reputation for your characters on the server, but the moment they decide to make it cross server, I'm quitting. I've been down that path before with WoW and it wasn't pretty. To me, all it seemed to lead to was impatient people who couldn't care less about their group and all they could think was "Gear, gear, gear, gear, gear".
I played WoW long before the implementation of the LFG tool, and I remember people actually knowing who I was on the server and were happy to have me as a healer and stuff. Then along came LFG and everyone faded into anonymity. Some may like this, I'm just saying that I do not.

Anyway, that's my two-cents, luv y'all and have fun <3
Sarge'd

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navarh
02.09.2012 , 07:06 AM | #246
Quote: Originally Posted by Ossoona View Post
and I remember people actually knowing who I was on the server and were happy to have me
how nice, your point even have own wiki-page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big-fis...le-pond_effect

and "fame" based on 5ppl dungeon's? really?

and this anti_lfg people certainly don't think about low-lvl group/dungeons… when even on full-stuffed server with login-queue new player can't find group anywhere

oh and one more
go to fleet, anytime/any server, all you will see there is spam for LFG that is your beloved community
enjoy

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MalignX
02.09.2012 , 09:23 AM | #247
Quote: Originally Posted by Ossoona View Post
I personally think that a non-cross server LFG tool is acceptable, because it maintains a sort of reputation for your characters on the server, but the moment they decide to make it cross server, I'm quitting. I've been down that path before with WoW and it wasn't pretty. To me, all it seemed to lead to was impatient people who couldn't care less about their group and all they could think was "Gear, gear, gear, gear, gear".
I played WoW long before the implementation of the LFG tool, and I remember people actually knowing who I was on the server and were happy to have me as a healer and stuff. Then along came LFG and everyone faded into anonymity. Some may like this, I'm just saying that I do not.

Anyway, that's my two-cents, luv y'all and have fun <3
I played WoW since Open Beta, and I find the idea of "Server Rep" hilarious. I found pre-RDF grouping quite exclusionary and incredibly difficult without a Guild. Being forced to join a Guild to run content is obnoxious. If you need recognition for your video game playin' abilities, join a Leader-board. If they don't round up everyone who says they're quitting and kill all their digital characters, I'm quitting! See how silly that sounds?
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Ethern
02.09.2012 , 09:25 AM | #248
Quote: Originally Posted by Ossoona View Post
I personally think that a non-cross server LFG tool is acceptable, because it maintains a sort of reputation for your characters on the server, but the moment they decide to make it cross server, I'm quitting.
I prefer sacrificing reputation for the sake of actually doing the content.
That being said there are easy fixes for that, including cross server friend list, therefore too bad for you if you quit for a such trivial issue.
For me that's a non issue and a non argument, not enough to deny a cross server aspect.

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netskink
02.09.2012 , 09:26 AM | #249
This is a MMO. Your friends list should be your LFG system. When it becomes a LFG system that is multiserver with people you will never see again then all social aspects of the game are broken.

I for one shudder at the disappointment which will happen to me once LFG comes to swtor. My $ will go elsewhere.

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MalignX
02.09.2012 , 09:44 AM | #250
Quote: Originally Posted by netskink View Post
This is a MMO. Your friends list should be your LFG system. When it becomes a LFG system that is multiserver with people you will never see again then all social aspects of the game are broken.

I for one shudder at the disappointment which will happen to me once LFG comes to swtor. My $ will go elsewhere.
Should probably start shopping for a new game then.
Just because I do not care, does not mean I do not understand.