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Proposed Penalty for PvP

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Proposed Penalty for PvP

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Nangasaur
02.09.2012 , 01:08 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by ReggietheThird View Post
Same here, I only want to win for my dailies haha, but I'm not the kind of person to quit a match (though I will admit to leaving a match where we were initially outnumbered by 4 players through exploits) are most people ok with the 15 min time out? I know it is different in different servers so the fix would probably have to be more complex

comments?
There is nothing complex about it.

Leave before the match is complete = deserter debuff. Done. Box checked. Move on to next issue.
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ReggietheThird
02.09.2012 , 01:09 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Nangasaur View Post
The only people against a "deserter" debuff are those who are the frequent culprits of abandoning their team as soon as it starts to lose.

And yes, deserter debuffs have been done in EVERY MMO before this one, and they work great.

And yes, deserter debuffs have been asked for many many many many many times for this game, too. Dev team is ignoring us, so far. It's received an incredibly more amount of attention than the huttball force pull instakill, yet that got hotfixed within 1 week of it going mainstream use.

Deserters have been doing it since day 1 of early access.

And there was a HUGE diatribe about how they prioritize "hot" issues, where one of the metrics used was the amount of public attention and grief it causes the players, and they tend to fix those faster than others.

So...where's the deserter debuff?

None of this, "Leave early after x number matches..." Straight up: You leave early, you get a 15 minute debuff. Sorry folks, but yes this does punish those who afk (why would you AFK during pvp anyways) and those who disconnect. But the amount of people that happens to is probably 1:1000 for those who just abandon the match because it isn't winning within the first minute or 2 of starting. And that's being kind. Most other MMOs are either 30 minutes, or even more painful such as disallowing that player to receive any PVP rewards or credit, etc for a certain amount of time, so they can at least join PVP matches, but get absolutely nothing for it.

Penalize these people. It's damaging the health of the PVP aspect of this game.
Sorry if it looks like i ignored your post, i was typing the last one haha, this is my first MMO so i am new to how the pvp systems work on them. So the 30 min one tends to work pretty well?
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Evilbrood
02.09.2012 , 01:12 AM | #53
When full premades come out they will add a deserter buff. Cause the people complaining about baddies in their WZ can just run premades all day then the people getting rolled by premades can get penalized. A win/win situation for everyone.

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vimm
02.09.2012 , 01:13 AM | #54
Just take valor from people who choose to leave early.
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Evilbrood
02.09.2012 , 01:16 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by vimm View Post
Just take valor from people who choose to leave early.
Would have to be a good amount cause a person that afks out of a terrible WZ but gets into one that farms 1300+ valor won't care at all.

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maradigamer
02.09.2012 , 01:24 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Evilbrood View Post
When full premades come out they will add a deserter buff. Cause the people complaining about baddies in their WZ can just run premades all day then the people getting rolled by premades can get penalized. A win/win situation for everyone.
If they allow full premades in the same queue as solo players, I won't have to worry about a deserter penalty, I'll just quit pvping. As will a lot of other people.

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LanceUpercutt
02.09.2012 , 01:27 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by ReggietheThird View Post
Yes good point, I forgot about the AFK's that needs a fix as well, I'm not sure how they would fix that though, maybe a stand still time limit? where if you're rooted for more than 2-3 min you get booted (and it count as an early leave as well perhaps to scare away the commendation farmers?).
you can leave on autorun and never get detected than

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LanceUpercutt
02.09.2012 , 01:28 AM | #58
better to have quitters than afkers

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CKNairb
02.09.2012 , 01:28 AM | #59
i will continue to drop PvP groups regardless of any penalty's. and whatever penalty there is, isn't going to make me pause in the slightest. as it stands not, we get NOTHING from leaving a game. other then our time back from you wasting it.

until you can learn to act and work as a team, its a waste of my time. as literally it took me a couple days to even get the daily done. i finished LAST WEEKS weekly, yesterday

maybe you should learn to work as a team instead.
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LanceUpercutt
02.09.2012 , 01:30 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by CKNairb View Post
i will continue to drop PvP groups regardless of any penalty's. and whatever penalty there is, isn't going to make me pause in the slightest

until you can learn to act and work as a team, its a waste of my time. as literally it took me a couple days to even get the daily done. i finished LAST WEEKS weekly, yesterday

maybe you should learn to work as a team instead.
seems like thats your problem and not theirs, why not join a guild and group up?