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Proposed Penalty for PvP

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Proposed Penalty for PvP

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Cegenaus
02.09.2012 , 12:54 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by ReggietheThird View Post
Shush, go away *smacks with broom* shooo you aren't wanted here be gone
oh so only people that have the common opinion are allowed here? why arent people allowed to debate this topic? me thinks someone doesnt like criticism
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stevesetoe
02.09.2012 , 12:55 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Adzzy View Post
why would you leave when you can just wait for the 120 second time out and basically get 1/3 of a game's worth of comms/valor ?
because 90% of the time, on my server atleast, it doesn't work this way.

You have 30s econds left, and then people come in aborting shutdown.

Then they leave again, cause of the situation (Being way behind when they enter due to disadvantage when they weren't there) and the counter starts over again, only to bring oters in, who do the same as people who left before them, etc, etc.
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keekee
02.09.2012 , 12:57 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by ReggietheThird View Post
You've got a point there, but would you agree to a penalty if they fixed that wall in problem and made it so you could choose which WZ you que up with?
Yes, I would agree to the penalty if they fixed those two things.

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Bation
02.09.2012 , 12:57 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Cegenaus View Post
#1 do you call everyone with an opposing argument a troll?

#2 i apologize but i could barely make out what you said and it looks like i did a bad job at that. write better?
#1 No but when their first sentance is "i leave because people like you suck" than its obvious ur not just arguing for the opposing side ur a troll

and

#2 supports the fact your a troll cause as soon as ur run low on material you go straight to grammer

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ReggietheThird
02.09.2012 , 12:58 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Cegenaus View Post
oh so only people that have the common opinion are allowed here? why arent people allowed to debate this topic? me thinks someone doesnt like criticism
I like constructive criticism guy, give me a good point and I'll be happy to stop calling you a troll, saying everyone else sucks is not a good point btw, how bout we talk like adults instead of relying on trivial and senseless insults
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Gryphandor
02.09.2012 , 01:01 AM | #46
While I agree a penalty for leaving needs to be put in place I honestly don't mind the quicker victory. But when the tables are turned it sucks.

Now you get points win or loose. I would think it would be enough with the exp and credits. For some it just isn't.

I have seen some people just give up and find a place to sit while thier team finishes defeated. Ya those who can hide stealth.

I have about had my fill of the same three warzones over and over so I only go in for daily and weekly now. Thats it! Requiring a win to finish quests is a reason many leave.
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cosmov
02.09.2012 , 01:03 AM | #47
Here is the problem : pvp doesnt reward player after he hit valor rank 60.Bags do.To get bags i have to farm stupid crates on illum(republic is pretty much non-existing on my server),or win 3 warzones.valor and commendations are useless for me.So why should i waste my time and nerves playing huttball with sucky team when in the end i get nothing for it?Debuff or no debuff i will still quite to save myself from getting a headache.

Fix for this will be simple:remove stupid bags and make wz`s award points.Different valor ranks award diff points(pre rank 50-centurion points,rank 50-59 champion points,rank 60+ bm points,or smth like that).

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Nangasaur
02.09.2012 , 01:04 AM | #48
The only people against a "deserter" debuff are those who are the frequent culprits of abandoning their team as soon as it starts to lose.

And yes, deserter debuffs have been done in EVERY MMO before this one, and they work great.

And yes, deserter debuffs have been asked for many many many many many times for this game, too. Dev team is ignoring us, so far. It's received an incredibly more amount of attention than the huttball force pull instakill, yet that got hotfixed within 1 week of it going mainstream use.

Deserters have been doing it since day 1 of early access.

And there was a HUGE diatribe about how they prioritize "hot" issues, where one of the metrics used was the amount of public attention and grief it causes the players, and they tend to fix those faster than others.

So...where's the deserter debuff?

None of this, "Leave early after x number matches..." Straight up: You leave early, you get a 15 minute debuff. Sorry folks, but yes this does punish those who afk (why would you AFK during pvp anyways) and those who disconnect. But the amount of people that happens to is probably 1:1000 for those who just abandon the match because it isn't winning within the first minute or 2 of starting. And that's being kind. Most other MMOs are either 30 minutes, or even more painful such as disallowing that player to receive any PVP rewards or credit, etc for a certain amount of time, so they can at least join PVP matches, but get absolutely nothing for it.

Penalize these people. It's damaging the health of the PVP aspect of this game.
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ReggietheThird
02.09.2012 , 01:04 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Gryphandor View Post
While I agree a penalty for leaving needs to be put in place I honestly don't mind the quicker victory. But when the tables are turned it sucks.

Now you get points win or loose. I would think it would be enough with the exp and credits. For some it just isn't.

I have seen some people just give up and find a place to sit while thier team finishes defeated. Ya those who can hide stealth.

I have about had my fill of the same three warzones over and over so I only go in for daily and weekly now. Thats it! Requiring a win to finish quests is a reason many leave.
Same here, I only want to win for my dailies haha, but I'm not the kind of person to quit a match (though I will admit to leaving a match where we were initially outnumbered by 4 players through exploits) are most people ok with the 15 min time out? I know it is different in different servers so the fix would probably have to be more complex

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Quantum
02.09.2012 , 01:07 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Cegenaus View Post
i leave because people like you suck
Til new people come in and we win the Huttball match 6-2 or 6-3. Then we get to celebrate without the "Elitist" jack wagons.