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Upcoming Patch Tomorrow, February 9th, 2012

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Upcoming Patch Tomorrow, February 9th, 2012

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Blackmort
02.08.2012 , 11:20 PM | #41
I agree with the OP. He is correct.

This game has a player base that spans a number of time zones. It doesn't matter whether the downtime is inconvenient for your time zone or your work schedule. It is still downtime.

In my case, the downtime falls into my prime playing time, because of my work schedule. I can easily work around a once-a-week downtime schedule, but when they start bouncing the servers several times a week, during my personal prime playing time, then I start getting really annoyed too.

I'm sure many people who are affected by this feel the same way.

And yes, I like the game, which is why it annoys me when they keep taking the servers down. If I didn't like the game, I wouldn't give a damn.

And just because they CAN take the game offline anytime they want, doesn't mean they SHOULD. That's really noobie behavior for a publisher. Better planning on their part would mean less inconvenience on the paying player's part. They are a business, after all.

That's not an unreasonable request in the least. To even have to mention it should be embarrassing for Bioware as it is.

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TECHTRONICS
02.08.2012 , 11:27 PM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by LogicalPremise View Post
Couple of points:

First, I agree. Bioware has decided, for whatever reasons, that the patching methods they are using is what is best. I'm not sure why they made this choice, and their current decisions fly directly in the face of the blog post they made a few days ago about how they prioritize patches, so I doubt they are going to be further ... ah, forthcoming about their reasoning.

The ACCC I am familiar with , as my cousin was a junior VP with the retailer Woolworth's some time back when they tangled with them. The primary problem I have is that they are far too dependent on litigation and restriction of access to markets. They have good records when it comes to dealing with anti-trust issues or illegal pricing deals, but a more ... ahem, should I say , timid record when it comes to dealing with software issues.

Their only real recourse is to argue from Parts four and five of the TPA, about unconscionability and consumer practices. The former can be applied to binding arbitration if and only if said arbitration has already transpired and legal findings indicate the neutral arbitrator is not acting in a neutral manner.

Long story short, until and unless someone threatens legal action over this debacle or can illustrate how Bioware isn't making any actions to address the issue, I'm not sure the ACCC or the European trade commissions CAN do anything.

Pity, really.
You truly are a smart man. I must admit, I am not that familiar with the laws, but what you say sounds too good to not agree.

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The OP cleary does not understand how this works.
you sure are just rude and on this occasion, you do not deserve my attention other than letting you know this. Thank You and good day.

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JaySBrah
02.08.2012 , 11:29 PM | #43
My primary play time is between Midnight and 6AM CST.

Consistently these emergency or unscheduled maintenance patches have completely ruined my play time.

It's been understandable to know that I can't play one of these evenings throughout the week. However, when you come home extra tired, decide to take a nap to make sure you're fully awake for a great night of gaming, wake from your nap, down an energy drink, and log into SW:TOR to find out that over 2/3rds of your play time are now gone due to an unscheduled patch...

Well, it doesn't make me want to say nice things about the server administrators, that's for sure.

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Fentz
02.08.2012 , 11:33 PM | #44
I really hope the servers come back up after only about 30 minutes or something

seriously, a patch that only fixes 1 small issue, and is probably really small (like what? less than 1mb?) shouldn't take 4 hours.

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TECHTRONICS
02.08.2012 , 11:35 PM | #45
LogicalPremise inspires me. I found this http://tos.ea.com/legalapp/WEBTERMS/US/en/PC/

the basics of what we all need to know - hahaha. very vague.

13. Software, Utilities and Tools
15. Updates to EA Services

ok.. now that I have found this, it puts a damper on my day. Just because it is written does not make it fair. we have advanced since the days of the ten commandments, cannot we advance in the 21st century?

Ten Commandments
#6 Though Shall Not Kill

21st Century
#6 Though Shall Not Kill - Unless it's a computer game.

WOW! this post is disjointed, have fun understanding what I mean.

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Vimesis
02.08.2012 , 11:42 PM | #46
I agree with the OP this is getting out of hand.

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TECHTRONICS
02.08.2012 , 11:48 PM | #47
OMG this is hilarious. <3 Savarous


Quote: Originally Posted by Savarous View Post
Bioware Employee: Welcome everyone! Welcome to the Bioware theme park! Enjoy your stay at the most fun place in the galaxy!

Visitor 1: Wow, this is great!

Visitor 2: Meh, I've been to better places.

Visitor 3: This is fun. A little rough, but I can handle it.

Bioware Employee: I assure everyone that Bioware is doing all that it can to quickly iron any possible problems and shortcomings. We all very much care for your concerns!

Visitor 2: One of your rides is broken.

Visitor 1: Oh what? That sucks!

Visitor 3: Shoot. Well, I guess I'll go on another ride. That one looks fun--

Bioware Employee: What?? It's broken! Quick! Everyone has to evacuate the park immediately! Code red!

Visitor 1: What? For how long?

Bioware Employee: Oh not that long, well, maybe about about a quarter of the work day.

Visitor 2: Ehh, that's fine. I'll go do something else.

Visitor 1: Aww! Didn't this park close down yesterday?

Visitor 3: Yeah, but that was when it's usually closed down for maintenance, right? Why does it need to be shut down again?

Bioware Employee: Because!! This one ride is broken! Everyone out! We care about all of your concerns!

Visitor 3: But only a few people care about this ride. We'll go on other rides.

Visitor 2: Well, I care about this ride. No, I'd rather have them fix this now. The sooner the better. If you're upset, then you're a crybaby.

Visitor 1: But I thought I could spend the whole day at the park today!

Visitor 3: It's natural to be upset at such a short notice, but I understand if they need to fix something. Still, there's a LOT of people at this park--and a lot of them don't even know or care about this one ride. Can't you put it on the fix-it list for next Tuesday?

Bioware Employee: NO! We have an official schedule to fix things on a certain day! And yes, that was yesterday, but still! You can enjoy this park's two-hundred rides tomorrow, after we shut it down and fix this one ride! We must fix park breaking problems as they arise!!

Visitor 3: It's just one ride. The park as whole is still operating pretty well--

Bioware Employee: SILENCE! We reserve the right to shut down everything on any other day we want!!

Visitor 1: But you just closed it down yesterday! This sucks! You suck!

Visitor 2: You're such a wuss, Visitor 1. Stop crying and get over it.

Bioware Employee: Thank you visitor 2. Your concerns are very important to us!

Visitor 3: Wait, hasn't this happened before?

Visitor 1: Yeah! You guys shut down this place multiple days in a row!

Bioware Employee: [Dialing] Hello, la Bioware parc à thème? Yes, that's right. That one ride--mm hmm. Shut it down, correct. Kick everyone out. Yes, we're doing it too. Mm hmm, all at the same time. Merci!

Visitor 1: Man! What a load of bull!

Visitor 2: Pfft, get a life you two.

Visitor 3: Well, I guess we'll try again tomorrow...

Bioware Employee: (Yes.... I can feel their hatred... It gives them FOCUS... Makes them STRONGAH...!)

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Darkness_au
02.08.2012 , 11:51 PM | #48
+1

I dont mind a down time for something worthy, but pointless silly little things like this ? meh. When there are so many more (imo) more important bugs, glitches, hacks and exploits that actually ruin the game that get left alone for so long ? meh

Fair enough if its at 2am for you guys in the US, but 4pm here in Perth, Australia.. so a night gone to fix a problem that never I never even noticed on Ilum ??

What a joke.. Like the last emergency patch to fix some problem that a FEW people were having logging in SOMETIMES, I never had this problem, but because they screwed something they had to extend the downtime so long that I lost an entire day of play time for another little problem that I never even saw myself.

Add to the fact that end game PVP and content is a joke, Im really wondering why I'm paying to play this when I get shafted so often.

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Ojaix
02.09.2012 , 12:14 AM | #49
If most servers are like the one I'm on there is little to no actual pvp happening on ilum to update the daily or weekly anyways. Once in a while the republic will form a small group and hit a solo person here or there in the center area while collecting armaments. As other imps make their rounds doing the same they come over drive them off, a few minutes later republic comes back with a few more people, op starts forming on imp side, republic crushed and that is about all.

So unless this fix is going in so kill trading can resume then I see no point in not waiting until regular maintenance.

There is soo many more things that are more broken and more important to more people that should be fixed.
Squadron 11.11.11

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IDONTCAREWHAT
02.09.2012 , 12:21 AM | #50
I understand that the game is new and needs constant patching, but for me the every other day of downtime is too much. For most of you this does not effect your play time but I work 2 jobs and have a girlfriend so the only time that I can really play is around Midnight and 4 am... which is when the servers go down. Yes I realize that it is my schedule and I have to deal with it but since I pay $15 a month for this game and 5 out of the 10 times I go to play it, its down it has become a problem.

The only logical thing that I can do (and that will affect BioWare) is to take a break for a month (at least) and save my money.