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Dear BioWare, I am... bored.

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TonyACT
02.08.2012 , 02:40 PM | #201
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMeerkat View Post
My problem is that you seem to not think that you can come back when/if they do add some of the things you want, and from the video they posted it looks like you might get quite a bit.

Complaining about the lack of content in an MMO that just released is short-sighted. My suggestion would be to cancel and wait a few months for content, that what I did with WoW for 6 years.
Oh, been in enough MMOs so that I know I can come back, but thanks for the tip just in case I didn't.

Have just been trying to point out that as a casual player I have been running out of things to do, that didn't happen in many of the older games I played, might be an issue here.

Not complaining, whining, raging or whatever labels people want to throw about, just noting - found this a little disappointing.

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DarthMeerkat
02.08.2012 , 02:42 PM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by TonyACT View Post
Nothing. 4 years in EQ and not at level cap (lots of other things to do), 30 days casual play here.
Define casual please.

Also 4 months in EQ1 IIRC 1 max level and looking back it was a boring grind.

Would rather have two months of enjoyment rather than 6 months of grind little enjoyment.
DDE

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ademnus
02.08.2012 , 02:42 PM | #203
with respect to the OP, I note your join date in these forums was 2011.

Had you been here since '08 like myself, you'd have seen the most heated debates about this very subject and your input, along with all the other '11-ers I see replying, would have been most valuable.

In short, the debate was should there be unique, bioware styled engame or same-old, same-old WoW endgame. What shocked me was the number of responses that read, "if it aint broke, dont fix it. WoW works for a reason." The voices of dissent got squelched over time and here you have it --wow in space.

I hear your concerns and I share them, but I do wish you'd ll been here piping up a bit sooner. Asking for a radical game change now is a bit unreasonable and all I can say to Bioware is, "we told you so." But lets keep at it and who knows, maybe they will wise up.

Right now Bioware sees all the pvp activity and thinks thats why the game is popular. The truth is most ppl dont want to level another toon via the same quest planets so theyre pvp-ing and story-questing. When GW2 comes out, the pvp-only crowd will abandon them and they'll be left with... us. Will they have realized this and start catering to us now or will they get stuck in an endless loop of pvp patches, fixes and content updates only to be left in the cold when pvp come lately launches? And how cold will it be for the real fans of the game... As I said too often in the old forums; time will tell.
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VenthiosLestaran
02.08.2012 , 02:44 PM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMeerkat View Post
Define casual please.

Also 4 months in EQ1 IIRC 1 max level and looking back it was a boring grind.

Would rather have two months of enjoyment rather than 6 months of grind little enjoyment.
I played EQ1 for a very long time, from the day it came out till a little after POP landed. I can say that I never just "ground" to level. I was always grouping, farming items, selling at the EC tunnel, or just conversing.

EverQuests game mechanics were horrible - it was the people who made it an absolutely unforgettable experience. If you were bored on the way up, you probably didn't partake in all the social activities available to you.

Where as in SWTOR - they seem to shun social activities like a nun shuns strippers.
"Above all else; we must have faith in our path." My wife ordered us both Collector's Edition's..

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DarthMeerkat
02.08.2012 , 02:45 PM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by TonyACT View Post
Oh, been in enough MMOs so that I know I can come back, but thanks for the tip just in case I didn't.

Have just been trying to point out that as a casual player I have been running out of things to do, that didn't happen in many of the older games I played, might be an issue here.

Not complaining, whining, raging or whatever labels people want to throw about, just noting - found this a little disappointing.
And I respond to this by saying that I, in my two or three hours a day of playing a crossed 4 characters do not have a single level 50 (Level 45 is meh highest). And that from an enjoyment view point this game is great.

How many of those months and years playing MMO can you say that you actually enjoyed grinding mobs in EQ alone all by yourself?

Just because the leveling process is fast that does not mean a lack of content when compared to other MMOs, just look at GW2.
DDE

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ademnus
02.08.2012 , 02:46 PM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by VenthiosLestaran View Post
If you were bored on the way up, you probably didn't partake in all the social activities available to you.

Where as in SWTOR - they seem to shun social activities like a nun shuns strippers.
who is they? Not the devs. I think you mean the players and if so, i agree. How many times have we asked for more to join an heroic 4, noted there 32 ppl in the zone, and seen zero replies? They beg for a dungeon finder tool but people are tryin to organize FPs on the fleet amid a hundred players who dont reply. Its all right here -but they dont want to be bothered. then they blame the devs. ugh.
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djsmileey
02.08.2012 , 02:46 PM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by Razyr View Post
Ok, go with that. Just so you know, if you actually read my original post, you would find it full of actual suggestions, while also commenting on an overall view of the game that I may or may not correctly believe belongs within a General forum. If you wish to remain uninformed, convinced that even without full knowledge you are correct then who am I to correct you?

Please continue being "not wrong".

Thanks for posting, have an excellent day! May we return to the issue at hand?

Lol, you just don't seem to get it.

Your post / thread serves what purpose?

If it's to help the game, you are in the wrong place. I can't say it any more basic than that.
If things get any worse, I'll have to ask you to stop helping me.

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TonyACT
02.08.2012 , 02:47 PM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMeerkat View Post
Define casual please.

Also 4 months in EQ1 IIRC 1 max level and looking back it was a boring grind.

Would rather have two months of enjoyment rather than 6 months of grind little enjoyment.
I have a wife, family, job and many other hobbies. I play computer games 1-2 hours late most evenings, sometimes console sometimes PC. That is casual for me - may not be for others.

My played time here is around 2 days in the first month and a few days. Loved the game so it had most of my gaming time in the first 3 weeks I played.

I have no issues at all in that I have had value for my money, happy with what I have spent, just wondering if Bioware /EA were hoping that someone with my profile would have given them more money in coming months, not likely to happen.

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DarthMeerkat
02.08.2012 , 02:48 PM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by VenthiosLestaran View Post
I played EQ1 for a very long time, from the day it came out till a little after POP landed. I can say that I never just "ground" to level. I was always grouping, farming items, selling at the EC tunnel, or just conversing.
But thats not really content, that community and that is something that YOU have to take on.

I find it odd that people think this way. You where grinding things back in EQ, badly might I add.
DDE

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PjPablo
02.08.2012 , 02:48 PM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMeerkat View Post
Just because the leveling process is fast that does not mean a lack of content when compared to other MMOs, just look at GW2.
Disagree. When you launch a MMO there is most likely going to be a lack of content at endgame, or a lack of TESTED endgame content. If leveling is quick, like TOR, players get to that content faster than you can fix it ending in complaints like you see on these boards.

While I understand that BW is positioning TOR to be the easiest, most casual MMO on the market slowing down the game at launch would have alleviated a lot of issues with endgame.