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Dear BioWare, I am... bored.

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DarthMeerkat
02.08.2012 , 11:30 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by VenthiosLestaran View Post
Take a look at Secret World, Tera, GW2 for the big name starters - they're predominantly different than WoW and the MMO's that sought to utilize it's end game philosophies.
Played GW2 alpha and Tera is failing in Korea.

Both are about the same in linearity.
DDE

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PulseXXX
02.08.2012 , 11:30 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by snibb View Post
i'm sorry, but wow had more content at launch, and more mechanics to work with.
also, i compare revisiting content like watching a movie. If you just get done watching a movie, of course you aren't going to want to watch the same one again. But if it's been weeks or months since you've seen that movie (and you've watched some other ones since,) it might be interesting to watch again (do you follow?) this is why having 3 to 4 different options in leveling up works. Being so linear in a mmo kills it! And i thought warhammer was bad...


Until cataclysm, the vanilla portion of wow remained relatively untouched, but it still held interest for reasons mentioned above.
******** = BS

No way, no how did WoW have more content in vanilla. WoW had no PvP system, 1 raid that was unplayable, 1 level 60 dungeon, and a god awful crafting system.
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RycheMykola
02.08.2012 , 11:31 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by Snibb View Post
I'm sorry, but WoW had more content at launch, and more mechanics to work with.
Also, I compare revisiting content like watching a movie. If you just get done watching a movie, of course you aren't going to want to watch the same one again. But if it's been weeks or months since you've seen that movie (and you've watched some other ones since,) it might be interesting to watch again (do you follow?) This is why having 3 to 4 different options in leveling up works. Being so linear in a MMO kills it! And I thought Warhammer was bad...


Until Cataclysm, the vanilla portion of WoW remained relatively untouched, but it still held interest for reasons mentioned above.
I'm guessing you didn't play at launch. There were no BG's. I believe 3 or 4 raids, can you even count Onyxia as a raid? A couple of instances.

At Vanilla, you NEEDED a ton of zones, as you ran out of quests leveling to 60.

WOW was extremely linear too. After you outleveled 1 zone, you went to another. Most of the zones I absolutely HATED: Felwood, Winterspring, Thunderbluff to name a few.

To be honest, I couldn't even tell you 1 story line from leveling 1-60 in Vanilla WOW. Heck, I couldn't even tell you any story line now in WOW. If anything, WOW should steal SWTOR's idea with class quests. It would be pretty cool (lets say your a warrior) seeing yourself go up the ranks from a recruit warrior all the way to a hero/general of your faction.

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Daedricshots
02.08.2012 , 11:31 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by chrisftw View Post
this next path better include 26 more flashpoints and 5 more operations
at least a new pvp map, that too much to ask?

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Snibb
02.08.2012 , 11:31 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthMeerkat View Post
You didn't play WoW at launch did you?

WoW had no raids (I don't recall MC being up for a while) or BGs.
Depends on your perspective, and yes, I did play at launch. To be specific, WoW had more leveling content and options. Whether or not you feel this is an important aspect of the game, who knows? People didn't reach the end game this fast either, so there wasn't the demand for endgame content right out of the gates.
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VenthiosLestaran
02.08.2012 , 11:31 AM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by PulseXXX View Post
There is easily 200+ hours of content, just from 1-50. There are several 'easter eggs' in the game if you would like to explore. Might I recommend: http://www.swtor-spy.com/datacrons/ to get you started

Why would you assume that if you are playing a game 6+ hours a day, that you won't eventually get bored, regardless of the amount of content in the game?
A datacron is not an Easter egg. An Easter egg is a surprise in the game or television show giving nod back to something relevant. Such as Greepo and Hans Duo.

The Datacrons are stat boosting time sinks that offer about +40 to all total stats. Some people may not enjoy gathering these, or feel simply no desire to trek all over the in game worlds clogged with mobs along the needed routes to get anywhere.

Or wait on a Balloon that Vanishes 15 feet from the Datacron on Tat, that Datacron is a SYMBOL for what's wrong with this whole idea - stand in one spot for 15 minutes. Get on Balloon, wait 15 more minutes.

This is not Fun. This is Wasting Time. Bioware.
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Bobbyrab
02.08.2012 , 11:32 AM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by VenthiosLestaran View Post
A staunch defender now seeing the glaring blind spots of the game he loves. So quickly turned on and bitten by his pack mates. Unfortunate but true.

Don't worry OP, it's not you. Trust me. There are new MMO's coming out that will offer things we have yet to try, or new visions of things we have. Do a little Google sleuthing and see what's coming up. The next generation of MMO's is on the way, a melding of story, sandbox, and theme park. All trying new approaches to the way things work.

Instead of copying WoW's end game Gear Grinder.

Take a look at Secret World, Tera, GW2 for the big name starters - they're predominantly different than WoW and the MMO's that sought to utilize it's end game philosophies.
I'd argue this is going to be the way forward. I wonder if TOR will be the Last of the WoW Types, to borrow from a movie title. Something new is definitely needed in the genre.

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Aaluria
02.08.2012 , 11:33 AM | #88
Please have some patience we are not at the two month mark after release yet.
Well, the amount of hate on the forums is really disproportionate to how bad SWTOR is to the point that it seems more likely people are paying $15 to troll the forums

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ArtMonster
02.08.2012 , 11:33 AM | #89
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Add 6-8 solo daily mission on 'EACH' of the available planets.... kinda like you have set up on Ilum and Belsavis.

That would be a great fix for mixing up the dailies IMO.

I'm in the primarily non-grouping camp that does pugs occasionally to mix it up. But solo is where I shine and can accomplish what I want out of a MMO.

So more dailies to mix the current ones up would improve this issue 100% for me.

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beemerz
02.08.2012 , 11:33 AM | #90
I got to level 30 on Republic and called it quits.......then I decided to roll Empire until my sub was up.........got to 25 and called it quits. Talk about the same old same old.......didnt even have the motivation to get to 50. Its a shame cause I was really looking for something new.

Those of you who stay have fun and I mean that but its just not for me.