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If you are 50 and a PvPer, why are you still here?

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If you are 50 and a PvPer, why are you still here?
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Tetrablade
02.08.2012 , 09:14 AM | #381
Quote: Originally Posted by TheRFC View Post
But the PvP is so POOR on this game from a variety PoV.

PvE, yeah ok it's not bad but if you prefer PvP then you're out of luck. If they gave you 3 Flashpoints all the way from L10-L50 then you'd be on here complaining as well. Or suppose I told you that you could only play the BT Flashpoint 10 times in a row and you'd have to do that on a very regular basis ...

This game could have been awesome from both sides and kept both sides happy. But the PvP element is excrutiatingly limited It's like they just threw in some competitive multiplayer as an after-thought assuming no one would play it that much. 8-12 hours per Valor level between 50-60 ... in 3 WZs ... yum
Never mind that they said, from the start and even in interviews, that pvp wasn't a huge focus. Besides you wowbabies, and this is a term that applies to me since wow was my first game, wow did not have ranked anything for the first year of its game. No warfronts, nothing. The fact that they put in 3 interesting warfronts and a whole planet around it at launch is pretty impressive. Is Ilum broken right now? Yeah, but the players have a part of that problem since you 'hardcore' pvp players continue to exploit games to get your gear then complain that no one can stand up to you and the warfronts aren't fair, or you complain when they can, or you complain you got punished for exploiting.

I said it months ago, that despite this being a good game my biggest fear is these 'hardcore' pvp players were going to ruin the game for everyone. So far vindication has been mine.
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Zeratulz
02.08.2012 , 09:20 AM | #382
Waiting for GW2, this game has always been a pit stop on the road to GW2 for me. I hate BW the MMO company but love BW the ME & DA (DA1) company if that makes any sense.
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Mongrul
02.08.2012 , 09:21 AM | #383
hey pinheads name a game that isnt crap. can you name something in real life that doesnt annoy you? is anything perfect on this planet? you dont like this game? no one cares fk off

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rainbow
02.08.2012 , 09:22 AM | #384
Quote: Originally Posted by Zeratulz View Post
love BW the ME & DA (DA1) company if that makes any sense.
I even like DA2... although I will never forgive BioWare for what they did to the elves and that you could not play an elf in DA2.

But I also do like SW:ToR.
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GundamDouble-O
02.08.2012 , 09:34 AM | #385
This game is definitely all about PvE unfortunately. I agree with most of you saying that it seems like PvP was merely an after-thought. Personally I think they are surprised to see so many people wanting to PvP. I don't know why they separated the factions so far apart on each planet. They clearly didn't want us running into each other, zerging the others' cities, or pvping very much outside of Ilum.

Why am I here? Because I have seen this happen in every single MMO at launch. When the dust settles, half of these people will be gone; half of these servers will be gone; a ton of improvements will have been made; and they'll be a decent and fun community to play with over the next few years.
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Irishbrewed
02.08.2012 , 09:44 AM | #386
I'm not, I mean I am just for 8 more days..l trolling the forums til then...bwahaha...

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SWImara
02.08.2012 , 09:44 AM | #387
Quote: Originally Posted by GundamDouble-O View Post
Why am I here? Because I have seen this happen in every single MMO at launch. When the dust settles, half of these people will be gone; half of these servers will be gone; a ton of improvements will have been made; and they'll be a decent and fun community to play with over the next few years.
Well said, I guess to a degree it's just frustrating to sit through it in game after game. These forum doods chasing the MMO messiah grow pretty tiresome after a while, particularly considering that there are games out there that theoretically fill whatever it is they want. I plan to pick up GW2 (probably) but I don't expect it to be any better than anything else on the market, hopefully its better than GW1 was as I don't recall it with the same faux memories everyone else seems to be conjuring up. I heard someone mention Darkfall 2, that might be interesting from a PvP point of view, but in part that is because it is not meant to be a AAA mainstream game.

Niche games are great for PvP, but this crowd consistently trolls from game to game ******** bricks over the fact that the game doesn't fill their vision of PvP. PvP in this game is crazy fun way better than I'd expected and it is primarily what I spend my time doing in game. More importantly it seems exceptionally clear that the developers actually intend to make the game's PvP better and continually develop it, that is a serious rarity in AAA MMOs. Most of the time PvP goes ignored for months if not years before getting a few token fixes, in the first 2 months alone we've seen tons of PvP changes/fixes and a good number more are on the horizon.

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Vaporizer-Delta
02.08.2012 , 09:50 AM | #388
Im here because i love star wars first and mmos second. I used to play SWG and before that UO. I lvl 50 and I spend my spare time when Im not doing the boring gear grind harrassing low level pubs on Tattooine.
I like to see if I can stealth into their towns or outposts, kill them, and then stealth out before the lvl 50 guards get me. Also my comp and I both wear sand people gear since were on Tattooine.
Im sure most of the pubs I kill hate me with a passion but if they pay attention they should realize I've never killed them more than once or maybe twice in a day. I don't corpse camp and I almost always leave them alone once Ive killed them. I know when I was low level I always wondered where the other faction was.
I know a lot of people will call it griefing or ganking or whatever, if they don't like it why the hell did they roll on a pvp server.

To me, getting just 1 or 2 kills on Tat beats 100 kills in wzs anyday.

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seallone
02.08.2012 , 09:52 AM | #389
Quote: Originally Posted by SWImara View Post
Well said, I guess to a degree it's just frustrating to sit through it in game after game. These forum doods chasing the MMO messiah grow pretty tiresome after a while, particularly considering that there are games out there that theoretically fill whatever it is they want. I plan to pick up GW2 (probably) but I don't expect it to be any better than anything else on the market, hopefully its better than GW1 was as I don't recall it with the same faux memories everyone else seems to be conjuring up. I heard someone mention Darkfall 2, that might be interesting from a PvP point of view, but in part that is because it is not meant to be a AAA mainstream game.

Niche games are great for PvP, but this crowd consistently trolls from game to game ******** bricks over the fact that the game doesn't fill their vision of PvP. PvP in this game is crazy fun way better than I'd expected and it is primarily what I spend my time doing in game. More importantly it seems exceptionally clear that the developers actually intend to make the game's PvP better and continually develop it, that is a serious rarity in AAA MMOs. Most of the time PvP goes ignored for months if not years before getting a few token fixes, in the first 2 months alone we've seen tons of PvP changes/fixes and a good number more are on the horizon.
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Grafikk
02.08.2012 , 09:57 AM | #390
Because I like the game and have fun pvping ... also the guild I'm in has a lot of great people and are fun to play with. On top of that this game is 1.5 months old and they are still working out launch woes.

MMO'ers nowadays are WAY too impatient. Have fun game hopping (you are not a professional MMOer, you are a professional game hopper).

GW2 huh? because that pvp is awesome? It's a bolster buff to the Nth degree INCLUDING gear! Wow, fun! You don't even need to progress through gear, it's handed to you! Kind of nullifies all the "Gear is too easy to get now" / "what do I do now that all my gear has been gotten" arguments huh?

Have fun in that pool of suck.
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