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It's not even healthy anymore

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ArmiaKrajowa
02.08.2012 , 01:42 AM | #181
so you guys are complaining about a class that spams an ability now? there's this wonderful thing called an interrupt. also, sorc/sage damage is sustained, not massive burst like others. They WILL win the drawn out fights. learn to dps them down. (and it is possible to anyone with half a brain)
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TeH-DeVa
02.08.2012 , 01:43 AM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by biowareftw View Post
So is playing an arcane mage in plate who can heal themselves.
If you mean BH and you actually think that we can put out damage and heal well with the same spec you are just horribly horribly horribly horribly horribly bad.
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Sathid
02.08.2012 , 01:44 AM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by TeH-DeVa View Post
That was an imperial vs imperial fight. I also as a bounty hunter put out the best stats of the entire group. I put out more healing then the best damage did damage. My server has many many many many many many many many republic battlemasters so even if I WAS fighting the republic it would have been equal terms. Consular and Inquisiter have no differences they are a mirrior class.

The fact of that screenshot was you have all said that sorcerers have the most stuns and are deadly so I showed you a screenshot where I fought 7 sorcerers and didn't die once still topped the charts and healed myself of 170k damage in a single life + keeping my group alive too.

I'm a bounty hunter Merc Bodyguard. I get three medals or four medals MAX per match. THATS IT! So no medal farming for me.

If that screenshot was too much for you though here is another of me having one inquisiter on my team against a group of republic with 5 consulars. I still didn't die. I put out 50k more healing. And I was focused also.

Link

I have a ton of these...Stuns aren't hard to beat and inquisitors/consulars are a joke unless played by the right people (who are very few) if you notice the one with nearly 500k damage in that SS is actually a marauder. Because a well played marauder>a well played inquisitor.
oh you medal farmed by default by just being there because you were along with all the other casters,plus your class is not like yah know hard to obtain medals.

Yah and in your group that you posted who has what gear? i dunno,ever tried fighting a BM geared player with little PvP gear? maybe those Consulars have none i do not know,but most likely your Imp group far surpasses the Repub group,that is pretty much common knowledge and widely accepted unless your server is special which i doubt.

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Talizzar
02.08.2012 , 01:44 AM | #184
Brought to you by the same folks who created Stunhammer. It is amazing that nearly every mistake they made with Stunhammer has been repeated here. It is a shame.

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biowareftw
02.08.2012 , 01:44 AM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by ArmiaKrajowa View Post
again, steps to avoid stunlock:
1.) don't charge in 6v1
2.) keep behind the enemy, they can't attack what they can't see
3.) co-ordinate with your group, let them know if a 2+ on 1 occurs
4.) use whatever DoTs you have (all melees have them) to keep damage up on the stun that will occur
5.) use your own root/stuns
6.) manage your 2min cd

do these things and I personally guarantee half your problems will be solved.
Yup melee should sit back and let ranged attack them. Great plan. Oh wait they can't attack what they can't see. All melee in this game have prolonged stealth I guess.

Also voice communication always happens in pugs. So are you saying this game is total crap unless it is premade vs pug? Cus yeah that is really challenging. Clownstomping undergeared pugs is skill.

I don't think anyone is saying they are having a problem with beating pugs on premades...

To be honest if you can't win games in pugs vs pugs you suck to begin with. They are saying the resolve system sucks. They are saying there was no need for this much INSTANT CAST CC, and RANGED STUNS in a MMO.
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iheartnyc
02.08.2012 , 01:44 AM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by Erishumlol View Post
Oh snap I never thought of it that way, looks like Caelrie and iheartnyc just got schooled again LAWL
No, because the OP had to post a freaking soliloquy to clarify and expand upon the original post.

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ArmiaKrajowa
02.08.2012 , 01:44 AM | #187
and to the cc=EZ mode comment, obviously not, otherwise you guys wouldn't be crying like my newborn about it. stuns and managing them are a major strategy to both ranged and melee classes. giving a person 30 seconds of immunity after they get hit by one takes out more than half the tactics of pvp
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can you make sword in box light sword so sword come out when opened? then if sword is back after sword, use light saber on box, and saber will be boxed after sword is out.
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Erishumlol
02.08.2012 , 01:45 AM | #188
Quote: Originally Posted by iheartnyc View Post
No, because the OP had to post a freaking soliloquy to clarify and expand upon the original post.

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bellok
02.08.2012 , 01:45 AM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by TeH-DeVa View Post
If you mean BH and you actually think that we can put out damage and heal well with the same spec you are just horribly horribly horribly horribly horribly bad.
It's like midnight, and it's also a school night. What are you doing up? I was right, you are a tracer round spamming merc telling people they are bad.......LOL

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TheRFC
02.08.2012 , 01:47 AM | #190
Quote: Originally Posted by ArmiaKrajowa View Post
again, being stunlocked for a long time by 2/3 the bg is not ridiculous, it's ridiculous you don't want to be stunlocked that whole time. use tactics, teamwork, and don't charge in against multiple players by yourself, you'll find your issues go away pretty fast
You obviously haven't played the PvP on this game

The WZs are geared so that big groups usually fight rather than solo skirmishes. The 'Assassin Medal' for solo kill is surprisingly rare of the layout of the maps and way people play.

The resolve system is *** and should be 1 CC = 20s immunity. When it takes 2 stuns to max my resolve, that could be 8-10s that I'm out the game for. You be dead So my 'resolve' has normally extinguished by the time I get back into the action after respawn.

CCs need to be nerfed for DPS classes. For support classes - fine. But this game has a sloppy version of support, which usually means 'be a great healer AND a great DPS', etc.

I don't mind a system where you can switch between 2 spec trees at the touch of a button before the WZs start but when you can heal for 300+K and deal 300+K damage then that's an OP class. If you slap a guard on that class also then you may as well give them GOD-MODE, ha!

The classes in this game are balanced up until the point where people realise how to play them, then BOOM!

This change definitely needs to apply to sorcs/sages, mercs/troopers. (Esp. the latter due to the ability to rock heavy armour). It makes DPS only classes a joke and gives no incentive for people to roll with a tank spec.