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It's not even healthy anymore

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iheartnyc
02.08.2012 , 01:32 AM | #161
Quote: Originally Posted by ArmiaKrajowa View Post
just so I understand where you're coming from. you're upset you get stunlocked to death when it's 6v1. you're upset the other team is using superior tactics and communication to beat your team. I hate to say it, but you need to L2P.
Seriously this.

In every other serious PvP game (whether FPS or RTS), you are expected to have a working headset to communicate.

When I PUG PvP and get rolled by a well organized team, it's totally fine and I nod in approval. When I PvP with friends/guild, we are ALWAYS on vent, communicating and working out strategy prior to the start of the game. And yes, the PUGs get rolled and usually exit warzone within a minute or two.

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ArmiaKrajowa
02.08.2012 , 01:32 AM | #162
I want to call BS on the sap story, unless he waited the FULL time for your resolve bar to drop, and if he did, you weren't dying and he was either an dumb*** or an idiot.
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TheRFC
02.08.2012 , 01:33 AM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by PeacefulViolence View Post
Massive PvP overhaul needed.
Agreed.

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Caelrie
02.08.2012 , 01:33 AM | #164
Quote: Originally Posted by CupieFoxtail View Post
People using hyperbole expecting to be taken seriously make me laugh
What's sad is that he probably thinks that's true, and doesn't realize that's a huge tag over his head that reads "hello, I'm bad at this game".

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iheartnyc
02.08.2012 , 01:33 AM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by Sathid View Post
Yah but here's the deal that you are not comprehending and i know it is like this on my server and im sure it is on most others.

You imperials geared far faster than Republics,plus due to both heal and damage medals the Sorc's/Inquisitors were able to gear far and away faster than all other classes and guess which faction has a ton of those casters? the Imperial so you also benefitted for just being there,now the gear discrepency is even more apparent,if you dont realize or understand this i dont know what to tell you,like i said four to five casters per a group every group and with better gear is the norm now.
So now the problem is gear...and not the CC system? Make up your mind.

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Hanscholo
02.08.2012 , 01:34 AM | #166
Quote: Originally Posted by Caelrie View Post
Yes, let's use Warhammer as the example of how an MMORPG should be played... the game 80% of the playerbase quit after the free month...

Look, it's simple. The ONLY way to make CC unimportant is to make every class able to function perfectly well while in melee range, even the casters. Champions Online did that, and it just creates a whole new level of whining as the melees whine that casters aren't fragile.
CC in WH wasnt the issue.

IN WH it was the stacking insta death AoE, and the fact that nobody bothered to check if the servers could handle the kind of numbers that wanted to attack citadels.

The knock backs and CC in WH were ok, and in general the class design was very good.

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Erishumlol
02.08.2012 , 01:35 AM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Zoobert View Post
You say that with no factual evidence to back it up - heck, the most recent news figures fly directly in the face of your factoids (ahem, go look up factoids - it doesn't mean what you think it means).

In my mind that post is fact.

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Aragiel
02.08.2012 , 01:35 AM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by iheartnyc View Post
Seriously this.

In every other serious PvP game (whether FPS or RTS), you are expected to have a working headset to communicate.

When I PUG PvP and get rolled by a well organized team, it's totally fine and I nod in approval. When I PvP with friends/guild, we are ALWAYS on vent, communicating and working out strategy prior to the start of the game. And yes, the PUGs get rolled and usually exit warzone within a minute or two.
seriously.. what do you call a strategy?
Im playing warzones in premade most of the time, and i win most of them.. and the only strategy we have is.. stun - focus fire - next target

please tell me what other strategy i can use?

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fungihoujo
02.08.2012 , 01:35 AM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by Aragiel View Post
CC in this game is not funny.. it is just CCfest.. you canīt control your character even 30 seconds in a row.. Thats pretty bad.

Yesterday in Alderan warzone, i was guarding objective.. an operative was there and saped me 6times.. just used his sap.. and disapier.. after minute.. repeat.. I tried to use stealth scan.. but in fact he was far away in the moment i wake up from sap.

Fights in general are pretty bad, i mean the feeling of the fight.. is not that funny as i have seen.. is too slow, not dynamic.. everything is so static.. so "STUNning" so sometimes i have feeling - its not really PVP im playing.
Well, you have a point- the 4 second stuns that you can chain two together make for far longer CC periods than you'd ever get mezzed in DAoC, the god of pvp gaming.

They should have kept pvp similar to DAoC, where stuns/sleeps lasted far less than 4 seconds and you could only do one before they became immune to it.

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TheRFC
02.08.2012 , 01:35 AM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by Caelrie View Post
Players use CC abilities to CC... News at 11.

You ever think that YOUR fun (running up to and mauling people) isn't fun for them?
The problem is, is that CCs should either give a tiny offensive advantage or a big evasive advantage. When all the DPS classes have loads to choose from it becomes a nightmare.

If a healer CCs me to get away - fine. But when they have a dual heal/DPS spec and CC me so they can heal up and match my DPS then that's an issue.

There's no tactical element in CC spamming.

CC's should be given pretty much solely to support classes.