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Tyranoc
02.08.2012 , 12:02 AM | #761
Quote: Originally Posted by rzrknight View Post
Really more people crying give me gear for free , i dont have time to play games cause im busy but i still want to win when i play.

Go get you champ gear that now is for free , and stop complaining.

I assure you , is not the gear that is making you lose.
Its no use... They don't listen... These people are all skilled MMO grandmasters... Its not possible that they are bad. Its everyone else cheating and/or being geared.

And having champ gear handed to them for free makes no difference to them. Because champ doesnt = BM... despite the expertise only being 7 points higher on each piece... which equates to about what? 0.2% bolster? 12% is tremendous to these skilless wonders.

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Tyranoc
02.08.2012 , 12:04 AM | #762
Quote: Originally Posted by Carbonated View Post
I pvp in my rakata gear because my pvp gear sucks and i have no problems competing and usually finish top damage done.
These people dont know what Rakata is... There is no need for them to know as they don't PvE, they are instead PvP pros! And its not fair that Pros don't have BM given to them!

They are a joke. There we people on here trying to say that Rakata had LOWER star boosts than BM and Champ.

How can they be skilled and have no idea what so ever?

I don't even think they are playing the same game as us...

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Abiza
02.08.2012 , 12:07 AM | #763
Quote: Originally Posted by Carbonated View Post
I pvp in my rakata gear because my pvp gear sucks and i have no problems competing and usually finish top damage done.
Makes no difference. These bads will continue to QQ regardless of the upcoming changes and will definitely continue to ignore this post and so many like it that have popped up in their thread. Carebear mentality can't be reasoned with. They're right and we're wrong. Always.

I feel like I'm watching fox news reading this crap.
"At the end of the day everyone has to die, you should be honored the assassin chose you to die."

>>>It's not me! It's you! A guide to SWTOR PVP<<<

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Huntingez
02.08.2012 , 12:21 AM | #764
Hello friends, first I would like to welcome you all complaining to an MMORPG. This stands for Massive Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game (MMO for short).

Now MMOs are different from your standart FPS game (which stands for First Person Shooter). In a FPS you are generally given the same character and weapons to use as every other person. In a MMO however, you get a reward from competing in PvP (Player vs Player).You receive gear! This is called character progression and it's a big part of any MMO! Now I know this seems new and innovative to some of you out there, but it has been the case for quite a while!

Enjoy leveling your character, and then when you hit the max level you can work and spend time getting better gear! While you play to get this gear you will also hone your skills at your particular class!

You now understand how gear in MMO PvP works. Thanks,
Hunting
-Hunting-

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CommandoPower
02.08.2012 , 01:01 AM | #765
I have to admit it's more fun fighting people on an even playing field than it is getting rolled for a month just to try and be competitive.

Also, rolling people who pose no real threat gets boring pretty quickly for me. I guess i'm just not the "kick the kitten" type.
I have faith in Bioware and Mythic to deliver a good game. I have more faith in myself to decide in an unbiased fashion whether or not it is good. Neither has any impact on the fact that I will kill you.

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Abiza
02.08.2012 , 01:58 AM | #766
Quote: Originally Posted by CommandoPower View Post
I have to admit it's more fun fighting people on an even playing field than it is getting rolled for a month just to try and be competitive.

Also, rolling people who pose no real threat gets boring pretty quickly for me. I guess i'm just not the "kick the kitten" type.
If you're getting rolled, it's not because of gear. And a month to gear out in mostly champion? Try 8-9 days if you really stick to it and stop wasting time by QQing on the forums. You people need to just stop.
"At the end of the day everyone has to die, you should be honored the assassin chose you to die."

>>>It's not me! It's you! A guide to SWTOR PVP<<<

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Krondorf
02.08.2012 , 02:22 AM | #767
Quote: Originally Posted by Torleen View Post
For someone who claims to be good you sure do spend a lot of time defending your gear crutch.

By the way, you can keep calling legitimate arguments "crying" if that suits your trolling. Logically you lost this argument dozens of pages ago.

This is further evidenced by your inability to address the very real issues raised in this thread. Maybe if you just act like a high school bully reality will change?
QFT + 100.

It gets boring quickly too.

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Delekii
02.08.2012 , 02:25 AM | #768
Quote: Originally Posted by Noctournys View Post
Medal gain controls commendation gain. Simple, provable fact.

When you get a medal in the warzone, it puts a b uff on you. Mouse over that buff sometime. read what it says:

"Valor increased by 50 and commendations by 5 for every medal earned".

Just had a losing Alderaan.

Had the following medals:
2.5k single hit
solo kill
killing blow
2.5k heal
5k heal
75k damage done
300k damage done
1k defender
3k defender

so, in that LOSING Alderaan, i got: 70 commendations. (thanks to the extra 45 i got from medals)

I just WON a Huttball, too, (two games later). The other team was so awful, we ended the game with 9 minutes still on the clock.

I had only 5 medals:
solo kill
75k damage
killing blow
2.5 k heal
5k heal

I got (for this WIN) - 50 commendations.

you get 25 for playing. Anything else is based entirely on your medal gain. It's why tanks roll through the commendations. Ive seen tanks with 13 medals.
First time I pvped since this thread.

http://i40.tinypic.com/2wee746.jpg

For some reason it shows republic as winner and us as loser, but the score was 5-2 Empire, we won. I got 8 medals, zero mvps and 100 commendations. Apparently 8x5 is... 75?

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asuffield
02.08.2012 , 02:27 AM | #769
An observation:

Myself and the others in my guild who rerolled to PvP in the 1-49 bracket are precisely the set of people who have been romping around warzones for weeks in champion or battlemaster outfits with 4-man premades and voice chat.

We did 50-only warzones for a while. They got boring. Now we do our 50-only pvp in organised battle royales on Ilum.

So, what happened to warzones?

It's not that we lost all the time, because we didn't. Nor is it that we won all the time, because that didn't happen either. What happened was that we were always getting placed against competent 4-man premades, and whether we won or lost the fight depended entirely on the relative skill levels of the 4 randoms that both sides received. It got pretty easy to call fights before they started, because we know all the names of the regular pvpers on our server, and 6 competent players plus 2 idiots will always beat 4 competent players plus 4 idiots.

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DrHalux
02.08.2012 , 11:03 AM | #770
Love the comments stating "you can get gear if you really work for it for xx amount of days". And " if you dont have BM gear yet or soon then you're lazy" or some such iteration of those comments. I guess my thought was that games are something I play when I'm feeling lazy. Didn't know that to enjoy a competitive PvP enviornment I had to work hard for it. Thought the competitive environment was something built into and part of a game, not something you have to work towards
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