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It's not even healthy anymore

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Saltydogg
02.08.2012 , 12:43 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by iheartnyc View Post
Run-on sentence? Uhm no, it's called a "compound sentence", which is composed of two clauses joined by a coordinator (in my case, a comma).

Hate grammar police, but just to show you how uneducated you sound:

"CC is important however in the current state that it is the cc is out of hand." -> "state that it is the" does not make sense

"Also Warhammer could of been" -> you meant "could have been"

"Further more" -> should be "Furthermore" one word

"If you took just one thing that worked from warhammer and that was cc break on damage and that is any type of damage then the cc would be fine in this game." -> this is a run-on sentence because of your failure to use any coordinators to connect the clauses

Just saying.
Just shows that you have no interest in the topic at hand. Its something simple that most people learn when dealing with idiots and forums. You bring out the troll to unvalidate their points. You have no interest here other than to dissuade people from the topic at hand. Your hand has been shown so crawl back under the bridge. Also it shows you play a class that has alot of cc and you dont want to see that changed.

I am right on both accounts, good day troll
Saltydogg the real mmo dog

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Lokai
02.08.2012 , 12:43 AM | #62
CC is needed in games problem is that in MOST games only a few classes have solid amounts of CC. If you look at say WoW...

Warriors: charge, intercept, shield bash or was it slam?
Rogue: have alot but its part of there core design.
Druids: roots is only CC last i checked, it only immoblizes
Mage: Sheep, have a passive chance to stun as fire but its kinda low
Warlock: Fear, pet intercept stun requires set up distance and micro managing
Death Knight: none(least as far as i remember)
ect ect

point is MOST classes do have CC's but it is fairly sparse and short lived. 1-2 seconds is average stun in WoW from most classes only rogue has an extended 5 second stun and requires alot of build up to do. Most CC breaks on damage or has a chance to break on damage, the issue in TOR is that EVERY single class has a 4 second stun with NO diminishing returns and a resolve system seems to take 3-4 stuns to work. If take WoW for example...each stun lasts less and less time... one possible fix is...

Resolve: resolve builds up and higher your bar shorter each CC lasts applied to you

1 bar: 20% reduction in CC time
2 bars: 40% reduction
3: 60% reduction
4: 80% reduction
5: white bar immune to CC lasts 10 seconds.

Additionally CC breaks remove 1 resolve bar and breaks any CC attached to you and makes you immune to all CC for 2-3 seconds.

Roots added to Resolve so its effected by resolve and cc immunities.

stuns removed or reduced accross the board, most classes do not need a 4 second stun those should be reserved for classes like jugg, maurder, and operative.

just my thoughts on it though.
" Destiny is like a river...washes us along its ever winding path, the jedi follow its path drawn along it like lambs to the slaughter... but We Sith fight the flow of destiny, turn its course to our whim! Through this will we be the true victors of this war!" -Lokai-

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Caelrie
02.08.2012 , 12:43 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by KrustyDog View Post
Resolve doesnt do dick because 3/4's of the cc in the game dont count towards resolve. Mondo lamo. Rooted-stunned-slowed-blasted back. In that 4 cc sequence only the stun counts towards resolve.
Again, we see someone complaining about resolve without understanding it. Common theme?

Knockbacks count against resolve.

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Deathrupter
02.08.2012 , 12:44 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Saltydogg View Post
Just shows that you have no interest in the topic at hand. Its something simple that most people learn when dealing with idiots and forums. You bring out the troll to unvalidate their points. You have no interest here other than to dissuade people from the topic at hand. Your hand has been shown so crawl back under the bridge. Also it shows you play a class that has alot of cc and you dont want to see that changed.

I am right on both accounts, good day troll


Ya I was going to point out the irony but you did it for me

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PibbyPib
02.08.2012 , 12:44 AM | #65
CC Music Factory

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iheartnyc
02.08.2012 , 12:45 AM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Deathrupter View Post
Thank you, this is what people don't seem to understand.
If the four or five guys are spamming you, then clearly they are a coordinated team, or you are such a big threat to the other team that they feel the need to incapacitate you.

If the former, then of course you'll get rocked PUGing against a group of players who can function as a unit.

If the latter, well what can I say, it sounds like they need to do that to stay alive/keep from you killing them.

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Caelrie
02.08.2012 , 12:46 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by iheartnyc View Post
If the four or five guys are spamming you, then clearly they are a coordinated team, or you are such a big threat to the other team that they feel the need to incapacitate you.

If the former, then of course you'll get rocked PUGing against a group of players who can function as a unit.

If the latter, well what can I say, it sounds like they need to do that to stay alive/keep from you killing them.
Not to mention, if 4 or 5 people are on you, you're dead anyway. Who cares if they're using CC? Would it feel better if they just killed you in 4 seconds?

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Saltydogg
02.08.2012 , 12:47 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Caelrie View Post
Again, we see someone complaining about resolve without understanding it. Common theme?

Knockbacks count against resolve.
Whats not to understand? I assume you have never been chain cc'ed before by your comments?
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iheartnyc
02.08.2012 , 12:48 AM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Saltydogg View Post
Just shows that you have no interest in the topic at hand. Its something simple that most people learn when dealing with idiots and forums. You bring out the troll to unvalidate their points. You have no interest here other than to dissuade people from the topic at hand. Your hand has been shown so crawl back under the bridge. Also it shows you play a class that has alot of cc and you dont want to see that changed.

I am right on both accounts, good day troll
"Its" -> should be "It's"

"Unvalidate" -> should be "Invalidate"

Seriously though, have you not read a single post that I made on this thread about how I don't CC? My main is a Sorcerer, my CCs suck (whirlwind broken upon damage) and electrocute (temporary short-term stun). I don't CC. But then I've played a lot of Warzones and have managed to avoid getting "CC spammed" 99% of the time.

You should just stop being bad at the game, or playing on a PUG Warzone against people who know how to play as a team.

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Deathrupter
02.08.2012 , 12:49 AM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by iheartnyc View Post
If the four or five guys are spamming you, then clearly they are a coordinated team, or you are such a big threat to the other team that they feel the need to incapacitate you.

If the former, then of course you'll get rocked PUGing against a group of players who can function as a unit.

If the latter, well what can I say, it sounds like they need to do that to stay alive/keep from you killing them.
And this is why the resolve bar is useless all the way to it's core.

The % deducted doesn't mean squat if you are already brought down to 30% HP from the previous people attacking you. The resolve bar is only effect against 1 on 1. If I have 3 people on me, it's useless, but then again who survives a 1 vs 3. That being said, if you are making a great escape, which is what I usually do, being stunned every 3 seconds makes you wonder where the hell all these CC's are coming from.