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daddymoofle
02.07.2012 , 02:19 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by Aztian View Post
people keeps say its a new game. lol yes but take wow the can do stuff like, raid finder cross over servers so ALOT more more big codeing and they just do it.
They didn't "just do it"; they probably took a year to code it, and just didn't tell the public that they were working on it. Blizzard is good about that.

Quote: Originally Posted by Aztian View Post
and yes this is 2012 and people say , u don't know how big the or hard it is ... wow is 7 years old and they can add stuff and have the stuff people are yelling about UI macros etc etc people are yelling in this game for.
WoW has been in development for 11-12 years. Development doesn't stop because you released the game, it's a very large, moving machine with intricate parts that take a lot of coordination. I agree that this game should have had many things already in place before it released, but alas it didn't, and you can't expect them to just magic it out of their asses because people are ************ on a forum.

Quote: Originally Posted by Aztian View Post
i am looking forward for plandetside 2 or warhammer 40k online or just log off
Sorry to see you go, as you are passionate enough about this game that you took the time to post - which does mean something, like it or not.

People should really take a step back and think about this stuff -- they're patching every week (sometimes more than once) and squashing bugs. Granted again, that some of this stuff that most people have come to expect in an MMO should have been here from day one, since they weren't, we do need to give them the benefit of the doubt that they're working to appease the crowds. They'd be stupid not to -- but they'd also be stupid to change their philosophy because of the minuscule percentage of people who are pissed enough to post on the forums.
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Chewpaco
02.07.2012 , 02:21 PM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by Zhit View Post
Sounds like BW needs to remove any type of scoring from hutrball and make it so players can't damage each other. Since the combat log is SO BAD for the community because, as in your example, good players get left out of raid because the DPS or healing sucks--but they do other stuff for raid... So to do we need to petition BW to remove killing and scoring from PVP--we need to protect the feelings of the good players that are simply keyboard challenged.
I would rather BioWare protect its' community from the nerdrage socially challenged.

Far easier to learn to use a keyboard and a spell rotation with a little guidance - than it is to stop a nerd-raging, dps meter posting nerd - from running his mouth in open chat channels, souring my eyes with meaningless banter.

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chton
02.07.2012 , 02:21 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by Exilicus View Post
Yes dont post facts just that you disagree dont bother to have any reasons or anything just im wrong because i have an opinion nice.
You're not wrong for having an opinion, your opinion is wrong. Just for starters 100% of people don't need a combat log. Plus as soon as you put your disclaimer on I knew it was all about hating on BW, but feel free to do the classic "I don't mean to offend anyone" technique.
I'm always amazed by people who express their opinion and then get annoyed because they find their opinion is not shared by all.

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beemerz
02.07.2012 , 02:25 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
Seems everyone on this forum is a software dev. I probably am too, but I just don't know it.
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Soluss
02.07.2012 , 02:28 PM | #115
My theory as to why they dont introduce combat logs....

We all know that abilities and stats and such are horid broken but for the most part cant prove any of it. With a combat log we could actually see and prove broken ****. I swear half the time I hit a mob it isnt doing the correct damage and sometimes not at all.

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Fujah
02.07.2012 , 02:32 PM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by chton View Post
You're not wrong for having an opinion, your opinion is wrong. Just for starters 100% of people don't need a combat log. Plus as soon as you put your disclaimer on I knew it was all about hating on BW, but feel free to do the classic "I don't mean to offend anyone" technique.
I'm always amazed by people who express their opinion and then get annoyed because they find their opinion is not shared by all.
I think it would have been better to say "this is what I'd like changed what about the rest of you?" rather than "this is what needs to be done". Of the things the OP listed the only thing I care even a little about, is the UI but it certainly is no huge thing I need added or else..

I like the game as is. So to think majority of the community wants a combat log is being shorted sighted.

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Slightlycampana
02.07.2012 , 02:35 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Exilicus View Post
They shoudnt leave it out however this is what like the 4th patch since release? the 3rd attempt to fix the ability delay problem? and to my point its still broken bringing me back to my original point these patches are not fixing major problems, as far as ability delay at least there as been an attempt as for as combat log, targeting and UI its not even on the test server.
The incorrect assumptions I see in your statement are:

1) Ability delay is caused by one issue (it's not, there are lots of potential causes and thus many fixes needed)
2) The recent fixes haven't fixed or reduced the problem (actually they have. I've noticed an improvement since the patch before this one)
3) If something's not in the patch it means they are not addressing the problem (they have actually stated they are working on improving the UI and implementing a combat log)

Expressing your annoyance by saying "I wish they would implement the better UI sooner, I'm getting really tired of coping what we they have now" is one thing. I can understand it is frustrating... I really hate the UI sometimes, particularly when my side hotbars get covered up by the op frame, or my cursor repeatedly bounces off the target I'm trying to select.

But saying "They fail because they haven't fixed the issues I find the most important in the recent patch" just comes across as self-centred.
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Obiwansghost
02.07.2012 , 09:55 PM | #118
A combat log is not required and therefor not game breaking ie will be added when the devs see fit. Though I really wouldn't hold your breathe, as there has not been a definite "yes, we are working on it" from the devs. Targeting, while it can be clunky and awkward, does work and is not game breaking.

You see, a bug is a bug (even if it only affects 10% as the OP claims) and they (the devs) fix the easiest ones first. The suits are the ones who dictate when new content is released.

Sadly though, we the player base and paying customers do not dictate when content comes out. Do you realize that the ragual content has been in the works for a year? Sadly though, we the player base and paying customers do not dictate when content comes out.

Seriously though, what I wouldn't give to see the devs white board (aka wishlist) for the next year.

Side note. if anyone is to blame for patches breaking other stuff...its the players who are supposedly testing it on the test server.
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Dekadez
02.08.2012 , 05:10 AM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by Obiwansghost View Post
Side note. if anyone is to blame for patches breaking other stuff...its the players who are supposedly testing it on the test server.
When the general sentiment on those servers is one of helplessness because they feel they are not being taken seriously.

Like I said: Zero communication between testers and devs.

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Exilicus
02.17.2012 , 12:52 AM | #120
Anyone catch that carrot yet?