If you are 50 and a PvPer, why are you still here?

That why my guild is pissed, 75% left the game, no one like being lied too, and pay to beta test

waiting on darkfall 2

Yeah, and the sad thing is it isn't even remotely true. The PvP feels completely like Rift or WoW. BW didn't make anything innovative and "ground breaking". Also Ilum is just bad. Even with balanced Faction.

7 days left on my game time, havent even logged in the last week...

Waiting for GW2 while filling the time with SC2 and HoN with friends that also cancelled their subscriptions.

I really, REALLY hope they "fix" Illum in 1.2 or very, very soon after. I actually enjoy PvP in TOR. The combat is fun and visceral and things are relatively balanced (people crying about huge imbalances in TOR are LUCKY they haven't experienced the PvP in most other MMOs). As a matter of fact, I enjoy it more than anything else TOR has. Class quests are fun but spread so thin after 30. Normal quests are literally the most boring content I've ever done in an MMO before. I try to fill the gaps between story quests with PvPing, space missions, flashpoints, etc.

So, by the time I hit 50, I'm really hoping there is meaningful and dynamic PvP. I don't consider grinding WZs over and over again for PvP armor meaningful or dynamic. I like TOR but I can't justify paying for that. The Star Wars IP deserves more than simple 10 minute arcade mode PvP.

1.7million, and they are going to the Chinnese market and Austrilian market

Good post, the same for me. Except that i have full geared Sage .

Was Star Wars big in China?

I HATE HATE HATE PVP, Guild Wars, WoW, SWG, WarHammer....HATED THE PVP TO NO END. so i lived the PvE life..

So i got bored with PvE today, and tried the PvP, just to see what it was all about...

BEST PVP I HAVE EVER PLAYED IN MY GAME TIME over the last 7 years or so....

I LOVE THE PVP in this game...BEST AND MOST BALANCED PVP ive ever played..Where i have just as much chance at killing one person as i do another..

not this im this class, so these are my papper classes, and these are what can kill me.. so how to avoid them, kill what i can, and complete objectives.

BUT!!!! if everyone keeps screaming NERF NERF NERF NERF NERF...then thats gona chance...its gona get stupid and unbalanced and unfair...and frustrating, and ticking me off..and i will walk again from it and go back to PvE.

SO i hope BW dosent make it WoW G-g-g-g-ay!

but thats just my opinion sure im gona catch fire for this.

Ha Ha HA Ha Ha I like your style Sir.

PvP comes down to a few things the modern MMO gamer does not understand but something the OG EQ1/DAOC player get's very well. And just to state the perfect PVP system prolly is somewhere between these 2 games but most designers seem to ignorant to understand.

PVP is not defined by class mechanics or game mechanics, it is something defined solely by skill, practice, and reaction time. It is the ability to overcome insurmountable odds by keeping a level and cool head in the face of great adversity.

Like that time two guys jumped you at 65% percent life with two mobs on you and you wiped the floor with them, that's pvp skill!

When a game introduces a TON of instant cast abilities, it has already defeated skill in pvp. And worse yet when it adds INSTA CAST STUNS, pvp skill is pretty much negated as anyone becomes meat for focus fire by small inexperianced groups.

Skill timers and countering are the corner stone of pvp and any game that is loaded with a ton of instant CC effects IS LIEING TO YOU WHEN THEY SAY THEY CARE ABOUT PVP!

ANY GAME THAT ALLOWS FOR PVP WITH ZERO PENALTY AND ALL REWARD IS LIEING TO YOU WHEN THEY SAY THEY CARE ABOUT PVP! This allows PVE players to join any PVP event with no risk scenario's and botch up the percise dance that is PVP, just so they can have fun. That's like me joining an endgame raid and forcing everyone to wipe over and over agian and the raid leader not being able to kick me lMFAO!