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Why even make a Jedi?


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Midasear
02.07.2012 , 04:18 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Zantul View Post
Sorry but the Jedi wanna bees are trying to re write the Jedi code...

THEY DO BELIEVE THERE IS NO EMOTION..
Do Jedi also believe there is no such thing as ignorance, passion, chaos or death?

Don't be daft. The Jedi Code is aspirational, not a map of cosmic reality.


As a practical matter, if one was trying to come up with a way of dealing with a number of people who had the power to fry people with lightning bolts, crush windpipes with their minds, and dominate the minds & emotions of those without "the power", convincing them to follow the Jedi Code or something very much like it would probably seem necessary.

The alternative looks like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_...ilight_Zone%29

The Sith Emperor is just Bill Mummy all grown up.

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TonkaBix
02.07.2012 , 04:28 PM | #82
I totally agree. I trialed the game as a Sith Inquisitor on my partner's profile and then when I created my own I thought I would try the Jedi Consular.

I didn't even get to the Jedi Temple in the Prologue before I wanted to punch my character in the face for choosing to be a part of the crazy order. The Code is boring and unrelatable and I would have never chosen to join it if it was actually me.

I was so disappointed that I deleted my Jedi character and started as a Sith again. Felt so much better once I could pick the speech options I actually would pick if I really was a Sith.
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pudim
02.07.2012 , 04:57 PM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by TonkaBix View Post
I totally agree. I trialed the game as a Sith Inquisitor on my partner's profile and then when I created my own I thought I would try the Jedi Consular.

I didn't even get to the Jedi Temple in the Prologue before I wanted to punch my character in the face for choosing to be a part of the crazy order. The Code is boring and unrelatable and I would have never chosen to join it if it was actually me.

I was so disappointed that I deleted my Jedi character and started as a Sith again. Felt so much better once I could pick the speech options I actually would pick if I really was a Sith.
You are a bad roleplayer =P
I have one character of each and they all have their own personalities, not mine,
a by-the-book "Lawful Evil" female sith assassin, servant of the empire and the sith code
a insane male marauder that'll destroy everything he encounters
a reckless female jedi guardian, good-hearted but doesn't think on the consequences
and my main is the rightful follower of the jedi code male jedi sage
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Suaine
02.07.2012 , 06:26 PM | #84
Why play a Jedi?

I find their philosophy fascinating and enjoy the struggle an individual has to go through to try and reach that goal of total serenity. I like the idea of personal sacrifice and service for the greater good and that obviously as human beings some of them fail despite their best intentions.

The conflict that comes from being human/humanoid and thus full of emotion and trying to learn and master that to become something else, that's interesting to me. Personal struggle and growth and also failure. Internal battles that can never be truly won.

It's not something I would choose for myself, as I am as hedonistic and indulgent as the next person, but I like to see that story play out.

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TonkaBix
02.07.2012 , 09:53 PM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by pudim View Post
You are a bad roleplayer =P
I don't see how what I said makes me a bad roleplayer. I need to be able to relate to my character to enjoy the game otherwise I might as well just be watching a bad movie. If I can't understand my characters decisions how can they :P
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drfumblez
02.07.2012 , 10:55 PM | #86
Besides the whole childhood dream of being a Jedi?

I like the whole struggle of trying to contain your emotions, to not let them control your destiny. The Jedi path is one of inner serenity, and I think that's what most people lack these days.

Would I be one myself? I might.
If it helps, I think of the Code as more of... guidelines, than actual law. It is what you should strive to be.

Try looking up the Jedi Code on Wookieepedia. It's really not as bad as people make it out.

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kraidy
02.07.2012 , 11:21 PM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Zantul View Post
Sorry but the Jedi wanna bees are trying to re write the Jedi code...

THEY DO BELIEVE THERE IS NO EMOTION..

Truly there isnt.

Where does emotion exist? In your mind...

What is in your head really exist?

No you can make anything in your head but it doesn't really exist, nor does passion or that matter.
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OldVengeance
02.08.2012 , 12:12 AM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by Midasear View Post

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It%27s_...ilight_Zone%29

The Sith Emperor is just Bill Mummy all grown up.

Technically I thought this was him

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Sunshines
02.08.2012 , 12:49 AM | #89
Oh, how I really wanted to play Republic side. And then everyone I knew went Empire. Now I am loving Empire. The Jedi do seem a bit more unrelatable. But there have been some posts on here that might help me get into the RP part of them.

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Ancaglon
02.08.2012 , 04:44 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Kelticfury View Post
No, I call them hypocrits in that post citing those examples, but there are many more examples of this throughout the game. Many choices flagged as good are not really good at all, they are just good for the republic not even necessarily for the jedi, with no thought to the lives of the people these "good" decisions could destroy.
If you've not played past Tython, this error in your understanding might be forgivable, but that's about as smart as saying all bounty hunters are irredemably evil because of the quest on Hutta about the boy and his father.

As for the quest cited, "Lovers and Secrets" on Tython, the actual reasoning about why the Jedi Order discourages romance is given in that early quest. The Jedi Master that tasked you, when asked about Romance, says: "Emotions disrupt balance. When you hold one person in higher regard than others, it clouds clarity and twists reason." -- he then follows that up with "We mustn't stand by" meaning that it's his role as a Master to prevent temptation -- which is in a sense, just avoidance of the possibility, not actually dealing with it. It is part of the Jedi training to learn to act without being unduly influenced by emotion, and they only become Jedi when they have learned to do so.