Will the patch today keep you playing or from canceling?

QFT...I can't believe the sense of entitlement of some of the kiddies on these forums. I've been PVPing since UO launched...not that anyone cares. Not sure why everyone feels the need to list the MMORPG's they've played at all. I laughed my *** off earlier when I heard people mentioning Southshore/Tarren Mill PVP wistfully as if there was some sort of nostalgia factor there. That game and its PVP are who you have to thank for what you're playing now if you don't like it.

WoW was HORRIBLE at launch in terms of PVP and continued to be for a YEAR - And still sold double-digit millions of copies and subs. As much as the PVP fans like myself want the focus of the game to be that, it's not. And if we expect good content, we have to wait for it. Patience is a virtue. Kids don't have it anymore.

News flash - all EA cares about is making money on this, just like any other game. Tons of people unsub for a month or two and come back. The fact that you're even bothering to post on the forums about it shows that you care, and you probably will be back if peer pressure brings you there, just like all the other people (like me) that hated WoW and still played it for a few years.

Most of us are having fun with the game right now, and know that features like PVP will only get better and better with time. If you want to stick around for it or not, that's on you. I'm pretty sure we'll see all the people posting about unsubbing right now back at a later date when they run out of games to hop to, and if not, good riddance. Rage Quitters don't build a good community.

If its PVP you want then there are certainly better platforms than a trilogy system based MMO platform. The trilogy sytem of combat wasn't designed for pvp and quite honestly it doesn't work very well at all.

You ask if this is my first foray into MMO pvp. No its not. It would be my third. I played Warhammer, and Rift before this. Warhammers PVP was atrocious and Rift was essentially boring. I at least find TOR to be somewhat enjoyable although the trilogy system, like i mentioned before is not designed for this type of game play.

You can never have balance in a game like this and that is why MMO pvp is always being pinged on. The only people who are happy are those who are OP and everyone else is left to whine and moan. Then the inevitible nerfs come then the the former OP people will gripe about being nerfed.

There is no way to balance out the classes because the classes perform entirely different functions. Lets face it, nobody really plays pvp like they do an instance. There is no real team work for the most part so you have to be able to 1v1 and MMO pvp just cant provide that on an equal basis and in reality it shouldn't because of the class based system.

If you want PVP then I would suggest you play shooters where it is more condusive to balance and one ability.

complaining about PVP in an MMO is kind of silly in my estimation. Its a bonus fringe capability that nice to have but in no way is it essential and to tell the truth it just a side mini game.

If that is the ONLY reason why you are playing this game then perhaps MMO's shouldn't be your genre of choice b/c you are clearly missing out on 95% of what the genre is REALLY about.

Wait a second. Are we back on the past ? Am i paying blizzard ?

Releases are releases, but the patches before the release is what tells you the direction the company is taking. And sorry to break your world, but they are lying on patch notes, they are doing unnecessary stuff instead of using THEIR RESOURCES to fix the real problems with the game (balance should come when that stuff IS FIXED).

This is 2012.

This part of the patch seemed very fair to me:

Champion bags now always contain 15 Centurion Commendations and 7 Champion Commendations, and the chance to obtain a direct trade item token has been reduced. Battlemaster bags now always contain 15 Champion Commendations.



After hitting rank 54 in valor with 24 bags and no drops, I think this might work for me. Although I am still concerned about the warzone credit bug and how big boy pvp on illum is still pretty much pointless. I am still somewhat considering resubbing. Seems like this might help get rid of the frustration.

Any other opinions?

I have all my gear, and it doesn't make the game any more fun, it will just make it so people realize that getting the gear isn't really worth it.

well, Tera hopefully will be something -New- than this wowclone.

If its PVP you want then there are certainly better platforms than a trilogy system based MMO platform. The trilogy sytem of combat wasn't designed for pvp and quite honestly it doesn't work very well at all.

You ask if this is my first foray into MMO pvp. No its not. It would be my third. I played Warhammer, and Rift before this. Warhammers PVP was atrocious and Rift was essentially boring. I at least find TOR to be somewhat enjoyable although the trilogy system, like i mentioned before is not designed for this type of game play.

You can never have balance in a game like this and that is why MMO pvp is always being pinged on. The only people who are happy are those who are OP and everyone else is left to whine and moan. Then the inevitible nerfs come then the the former OP people will gripe about being nerfed.

There is no way to balance out the classes because the classes perform entirely different functions. Lets face it, nobody really plays pvp like they do an instance. There is no real team work for the most part so you have to be able to 1v1 and MMO pvp just cant provide that on an equal basis and in reality it shouldn't because of the class based system.

If you want PVP then I would suggest you play shooters where it is more condusive to balance and one ability.

complaining about PVP in an MMO is kind of silly in my estimation. Its a bonus fringe capability that nice to have but in no way is it essential and to tell the truth it just a side mini game.

If that is the ONLY reason why you are playing this game then perhaps MMO's shouldn't be your genre of choice b/c you are clearly missing out on 95% of what the genre is REALLY about.

You're right, this is 2012. And it costs $15 dollars for a lunch that will be gone in 30 minutes, welcome to inflated economies based on central banks...I'm sorry, do you want a wing named after you at BioWare Austin for your generous contributions?

You pay for server upkeep and support staff.

This IS 2012. And they put out a content patch within the first month of launch. Whether they fixed YOUR bug or not, they've been fixing bugs regularly with each week.

If that's not fast enough for you, it's a shame, but don't act like they owe you anything. There has been the least server downtime of any MMO launch I can remember. Aside from Warzone lag the servers run beautifully.

Whether this is 2000 or 2012, the complexity and amount of code required to keep these games running is EXACTLY THE SAME.

In fact, there's a glut of aftermarket parts and exotic hardware configurations that make this even more of a nightmare to troubleshoot. Sorry PVP isn't immersive enough for you, but the guy with a 5 monitor display and a 5,000 dollar computer who can't play has a more serious complaint than you, at least you can log in the game.

They have millions of complaints going and have to prioritize right now. If it's not fast enough for you don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Cancelled, but I bought a 3 month sub so I have until April. If they don't fix Ilum/world pvp in general, not to mention the billion other bugs in the game by then I'm gone.