Patch, who cares?

Sorry son, but this is the wrong place to maturely discuss said matters. You're at the prepubescent fanboy ivory tower hideout den.

Tread lightly.

The game has been losing market share ever since the holiday season ended, and this has caused a spike in rabid blind adoration and stifling of anything resembling an argument. The lack of necessary updates gets covered up here so bad that OJ would wish he knew some of these guys when it mattered most.

Go to MMO Champion if you want a proper discussion on the state of SWTOR. You're not going to find it here.

Yah when the dev of a game that i pay for tells me somthing i take it as the truth my bad

So let me get this straight. You have conclusive evidence that the decline of market share can be directly attributed to the lack of features that other games have? Can't wait to see that study, please link it.

Ever consider the fact THAT EVERY SINGLE GAME, especially a game with a prestigous title like Star Wars, is going to have a massive initial interest based on name alone. The features you seek could in fact have ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING to do with decline in market share? I doubt you have, because that wouldn't support your self-serving argument.

No it says that they won't allow organized and funded negative campaigns to adversely affect their product and the only people who are butturt over it were part of the campaign or had something to gain from it.

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/EA

While being relatively stable from august until release, thanks to the build-up of their flagship product SWTOR, the post-release spike lasted only days, until EA stock started dropping rapidly.

Brean Murray Carret & Co analysts have already confirmed sales to be lower than expected, and have since then adjusted their assumptions downward. Todd Mitchell, the one involved, is hardly a rookie in analyzing video games and stock fluctuations.

Oh, ofcourse SWTOR is only one part of the portfolio, but it's their most important asset and one would have expected a different picture to emerge if the game would have been the undeniable success you guys think it is.

Too many fans are plugging their ears. There's nothing wrong with being critical, you can still like the game despite that. I still love it, but I see some glaring mishaps. Most of them due to poor communication.

I'm a strategic planner at an advertising agency, and have been a market researcher the years after I've graduated. I've come to realize how important communication is in the gaming industry, how crucial it is in shaping perception. Bioware can do better. They might be new to the specific MMO niche, but they are a solid company. I keep faith.

Oh, and while I agree initial sales matter less than customer retention, you can't keep what you don't have.

Yes, but I have no idea how hard it is to integrate in to the current engine structure. I have no idea what BioWare already has planned for current issues. I do not know what language their code is even in. See what I'm saying? Your average programmer does not know what goes in to something they have not touched. It does not take an expert programmer to figure that out.

Maybe they changed their mind when they discovered a lot of people do not want combat logs at all. This is why they tell us so little about what is planned for the game. People like you reads it like a binding promise.

http://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/EA

While being relatively stable from august until release, thanks to the build-up of their flagship product SWTOR, the post-release spike lasted only days, until EA stock started dropping rapidly.

Brean Murray Carret & Co analysts have already confirmed sales to be lower than expected, and have since then adjusted their assumptions downward. Todd Mitchell, the one involved, is hardly a rookie in analyzing video games and stock fluctuations.

Oh, ofcourse SWTOR is only one part of the portfolio, but it's their most important asset and one would have expected a different picture to emerge if the game would have been the undeniable success you guys think it is.

Too many fans are plugging their ears. There's nothing wrong with being critical, you can still like the game despite that. I still love it, but I see some glaring mishaps. Most of them due to poor communication.

I'm a strategic planner at an advertising agency, and have been a market researcher the years after I've graduated. I've come to realize how important communication is in the gaming industry, how crucial it is in shaping perception. Bioware can do better. They might be new to the specific MMO niche, but they are a solid company. I keep faith.

First let me just say as a disclaimer im not a BW hater, and im not here to hate on the game just to give my opinions. That said...