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NO Addons please. There is another solution!


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Wattser
02.05.2012 , 12:33 PM | #551
Quote: Originally Posted by Makais View Post
As for the meters, I have a suggestion: an <End Flashpoint/Operation Report>, just like in the end of Warzones. Voilá, you can consult who's doing their jobs right. DPS, Healing, Protection, MVP vote also (why not?)... It's all there.
This really doesn't matter. I'm pretty sure I could do over 2 mil in healing and never get past the first boss. Grand totals mean nothing in PvE or PvP for that matter. Just give us a combat log so we can let 3rd party programs analyze our data. So you can see, why your tank spiked, who does the most burst for burn phases, etc. And just seeing a number for someones DPS and judging them on that you will fail with or without a meter.

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Innocentone
02.06.2012 , 07:57 PM | #552
Content is already being downed that shows the game doesn't need add-ons(dpsmeters, tanking).

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Rehom
02.07.2012 , 08:30 AM | #553
If you dont want addons dont use them then. Addons are made for people that want to use them and customize their UI or make the game easier because they might find it to hard (highly doubtful) but its up to you if you want to use them or not
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Blackwaternvy
02.07.2012 , 09:53 AM | #554
Quote: Originally Posted by OrionBurger View Post
Why exactly do you not want addons available? If you don't like them, don't use them.
This. If you dont like them simply dont use them. The choice should be left to the player and their use is subjective. Other players simply stating "No Addons" shouldn't be able to determine how I want to play the game with or with out them. Also... addons are user generated creating extensions of this game beyond just the game IE curse etc.

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SvnStrSlm
02.07.2012 , 12:11 PM | #555
Blah blah blah, Im all for UI customization but tools that tell you when and how to do things in a boss fight is lame and border line cheating. I love how we get two great new games, Rift and SWTOR yet all people want is WoW X.0. Why cant we have just a classic pure game?

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Perkunas
02.07.2012 , 12:40 PM | #556
Stevie Wonder could tell you the UI is garbage and is in dire need of community intervention. Pretending like there isn't a problem just comes off as insanity.
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SvnStrSlm
02.07.2012 , 12:56 PM | #557
Quote: Originally Posted by Perkunas View Post
Stevie Wonder could tell you the UI is garbage and is in dire need of community intervention. Pretending like there isn't a problem just comes off as insanity.
I also think we need to make a distinction between UI customization addons and tool addons. I agree that the UI is very limiting when it comes to hot bars and positioning.

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Gelich
02.07.2012 , 12:59 PM | #558
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bioware promised that swtor would be different from all the other mmo's, and so far, they delivered on their promises.
I admit, I LOL'd.

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berktheboss
02.07.2012 , 01:09 PM | #559
Quote: Originally Posted by Whatsalightsaver View Post
Sometimes I wonder if the SWOTR community is made up of all the bad players who got kicked from their WoW guilds for sucking. "No dps/hps meters! No combat logs! I don't want to be held accountable for my performance! There's a better way, and it includes you ignoring that our most recent wipe was my fault!" This thread is pathetic. If you don't want to use add ons, you don't have to. The very argument that it makes things easier should only mean that you have less reason to use them if you don't want to. The argument defeats itself.
I agree with this. However I think we should definately avoid any Deadly Boss Mods type add on, it just made boss mechanics trivial.
In regards to DPS meters and stuff... I have a friend who in playing this as his first MMO. Frankly he has know idea how well he's doing because he can't compare his dps output, he has no way of knowing whether he's is improving at all.
Also as GM what do I do when we are at a Nightmare boss not able to beat an enrage timer? I know when a tanks messes up, I know when the healers mess up. With DPS....well, I have no idea who is pulling their weight.

I think that is a route cause of a lot of the resistance. It gives you somewhere to hide.

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Kragnor
02.07.2012 , 01:20 PM | #560
LOL This topic again. I am all for UI mods and the ability to customize and move things around, but they are already working on allowing the ui to be customized, so that is kind of done with, now it's just a matter of waiting for it to be released. As for DPS meters, and those sorts of mods, I at first hated em, cus I felt they were just an e-peen enhancer for the rhetoric elitist jerks worshipers, but eventually you know I found ways through it to enhance my dps, so I did come to a mindset of the following.

If you don't like the elitists, don't become one, don't listen to em, and just ignore them, but don't let your dislike for them and their tools prevent you from bettering yourself as a player, and a guild member. Even if it means finding out for yourself how to play your class better, use the tools available to you. Bettering yourself as a player doesn't equal sacrificing the fun of the game, it can make the game more fun, especially when you know you worked hard to stand out among your guild. Humans by nature are competitive, and being the best you can at whatever you enjoy falls into that nature, so don't lie to others, or yourself when you say you wouldn't have fun being good, or the best at your class on your server or in your guild.
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