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pipda
02.07.2012 , 12:45 PM | #21
OP hits the nail on the head.

I am sure the 10 people that have gone that far into Advanced Prototype will enjoy that animation correction. They may have preferred to have the spec more useful beyond the first two tiers however.

Maybe the same reason they have spent so much time on nerfing BC and "fixing" Illum instead of just getting it right the first time or hell even the second time.

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Jett-Rinn
02.07.2012 , 12:46 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Dekadez View Post
Sorry son, but this is the wrong place to maturely discuss said matters. You're at the prepubescent fanboy ivory tower hideout den.

Tread lightly.

The game has been losing market share ever since the holiday season ended, and this has caused a spike in rabid blind adoration and stifling of anything resembling an argument. The lack of necessary updates gets covered up here so bad that OJ would wish he knew some of these guys when it mattered most.

Go to MMO Champion if you want a proper discussion on the state of SWTOR. You're not going to find it here.
Yes go to WoWfan central if you want the truth!
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pipda
02.07.2012 , 12:47 PM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by MikelGoff View Post
2/4 of those things should be coming in March.

Do you even pay attention to the Devs?
According to the Devs a few months back they "should be coming at launch".

Don't hold your breath.

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Quip
02.07.2012 , 12:47 PM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Exilicus View Post
Yes dont post facts just that you disagree dont bother to have any reasons or anything just im wrong because i have an opinion nice.


Well you did say something reasonable, though unflattering to The Old Republic, in a reasonable manor on the TOR forums. You clearly deserved to be personally attacked.

These are the forums, after all, where the developers called out lying players publicly for the soul purpose of polarizing the community and making it as miserable as possible for everyone with a dissenting opinion.
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Dekadez
02.07.2012 , 12:47 PM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by Jett-Rinn View Post
Yes go to WoWfan central if you want the truth!
There's an entirely different community on the SWTOR board, they don't even compare. They have been correct in their assessments, them being mildly positive, but at least they don't shun a critical analysis, unlike these boards.

OP laid out his opinion in a civilized manner, without resorting to stereotypes, boutades or bashing per se. Yet he gets shafted because he's not sugarcoating anything.

These boards have become a cesspit. So many of you here connect with this game on an emotional level, any point of critique is a personal, frontal, assault.

Take a step back and think. Be critical. I know I am. I like the game, and will be evaluating in 3 more months like I always do with any MMO, but I'm not convinced with the support Bioware has been giving us. We've been promised a lot, and got a few. There's always something coming the next month, only to end up getting postponed.

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Exilicus
02.07.2012 , 12:47 PM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by Scar View Post
This is sort of "I don't see a cure for cancer yet, so it must not be a priority and/or people must not be working on it."

We knew ahead of time this patch wasn't going to have Legacy. Last thing I read it's targeted for 1.2.

We have heard nothing solid on any of the other things listed other than they are aware and working on them.

Now you can choose to not believe them. That's fine. But just because we don't see it immediately (or even things asked for in testing phase) doesn't mean they are not working on them.

Personally, what i would do is just fill out my little cancel sheet they give me on exit, and either check back in a bit (3-9 months) and see if they added them. Or just move on entirely.

I thought Rich's blog entry went into a lot of good detail on how things work. But apparently it doesn't do what people want: fix things on their own timetable.
This is a good post except that bw isnt trying to cure cancer more like, the flu and we have all been sick for a year and rather than give us the medicine we need they vaccinate us for other diseases we might get.

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Raagnarz
02.07.2012 , 12:48 PM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Qoojo View Post
To the OP, do you want the animation guy, who could potentially not be a coder, fixing core game issues? I realize how hard it is for people to understand that coders are not interchangeable, because my own management doesn't understand the concept. Just because you work on the same project doesn't mean you know every section of code, and there is a significant increased risk when going into unknown code, and of course, extra time to learn the new code.
No you don't but at the same time, in my experience, you don't constantly update a customer or a product with minor little fixes here and there. You lump the little fixes in with bigger updates for 2 reasons, doing multiple small patches can be as risky(sometimes riskier) as doing larger ones, and customer perception is a HUGE issue. When you fix a ton of crap that aren't core issues to a customer, and they see all these little things they didn't ask for, they think they are paying you are wasting time on things that aren't important.

Most of the general public doesn't understand how a dev team works and how there are smaller teams within the whole each assigned different tasks and completion times. Given that I am part of that I understand that, but that is exactly why I agree with the OP's point. They will fix minor things more quickly than major but the perception of disconnect with the community because of the way they are going about it inexcusable in my opinion. They need to get better and get better quick.

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Haroshia
02.07.2012 , 12:48 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Bazouk View Post
that's the funniest thing i've read all day.
At least one patch a week?

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Jett-Rinn
02.07.2012 , 12:48 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Quip View Post

These are the forums, after all, where the developers called out lying players publicly for the soul purpose of polarizing the community and making it as miserable as possible for everyone with a dissenting opinion.
Yes because they should let liars shills for Arenanet and Astroturfers have their say on the forums.
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Jalden
02.07.2012 , 12:49 PM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Exilicus View Post
Targeting
Legacy (actually put into the game)
Combat logs
UI/Macro/addons/anything

those were my complaints issues that have been in this game since beta started over a year ago, i dont care about content. these things should have been in the game at release, have been griped about for over a year, and should be the highest priority of the dev team as they effect the most people. almost every thread complaing about this game has mention of at least 1 of the 4 of these.
Opinions differ. This should be evident to you by the reactions to those complaint threads you mention. There is no consensus on what needs to be fixed first, or even fixed at all.