If you are 50 and a PvPer, why are you still here?

-A few amusing thing I find from people that keep cheering the name of GW2 is that none seems to have or BE playing GW1. It was a very good pvp game. Too bad there is almost nobody playing it now on when I log. Then again, the numerous expansion, with numerous new ability(and alot of copy paste from older expansion) start breaking the beauty of the game and gamebreaking build start appearing more and more. Add that those build took very long to "break". You had to endure it or do it yourself.

-I find it amusing that soo many people keep saying that World pvp doesn't exist on swtor. True enough. Bad new for you though, GW1 didn't AND the 2 won't have any either... Everything is instance! Well, not a good start for alot of pvper! right?

-If GW2 followed the first one, don't hope for any other mini-game if you get a little bored. Pve was horrible and hunting achievement(which was add way later) was... quite awfully grindy. Grind and pvp mentality doesn't match right?

-And finally... I remember all those praise of GW when it was going out. It was suppose to be Heaven finally accessible to the mass and destroy the hellish forces of WoW and company!
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Guess what, even if GW pvp was awesome, It didn't really do anything. GW is a forgotten game even for its good pvp and the only reason people whisper its name is because the 2 is coming out.

It is shameful for all those who actually played and like the original game.

This is why all of you guys need to follow the success of my MMO that I'm working on:

Pie in da face online

Basically:

You send me money each month.

You can log in and throw unlimited pies at other players. You earn points for face shots only so you have to aim well (true twitch game FYI)

Once you earn enough points, you can buy better looking pies.

There are no classes, just one class so there is literally no imbalance.

There is no leveling since thats nonsense - you just get end game PvP.

If you earn enough points you can dual wield pies.

Lastly - send me more money and I give you a special ability to toss pies in semi-automatic mode with a GIANT Gears of War looking pie launcher.

This x 100. I came from Final Fantasy 11. This game is a breath of fresh air. It's still very very early in the build of the game, yes there are bugs, yes I rage when I don't get credit for my pvp win, but I know BW and EA want this game to succeed and they will pour the resources into it that are needed. The speed of content release and the bug fixes is actually extremely quick, but most of you haven't been there from the start of a MMO. Any WoW player who picked it up at the jump can tell you horror stories of the servers not even being online half the time when the game first launched. Any final fantasy player can tell you it took six months from hitting max for the first small "here guys here's some more **** to do" expansion. The problem with the internet age, gamers, and MMO'ers especially is that they want instant gratification.

The attitude of, FIX THIS OR I'M QUITTING, gets you no where. No one thinks you are cool, in fact most of us are happy you are leaving. Perfection takes time, rome wasn't built in a day. If you don't like the game don't log on it's as simple as that.

TLDR: go cry somewhere else about unsubbing.

Dual wield pies = gross imbalance unless allowed to everyone from day 1 - this game fails!

I hate posts like this. Stop acting like it is OK for developers to release buggy unfinished products.

Huttball and the possibility of another insanely fun wz like huttball.

I find Huttball to be rather fun when the teams are even and filled with players that know how to play it. I can see where the devs were going with this one.

You're asking me to provide an abstract measure of success because you can't argue against the monetary success of Guild Wars in sales, and its success as an E-Sport.

Yeah, come back when you have a better argument.

Almost every single game released has bugs in it. If they waited to fix every minor detail and even large problems the game would never relase. We'd be waiting till the end of time to get any game. I mean look at the Call of Duty franchise. Every one of those games is the exact same with a few small additions. All the maps have bugs and glitches in them but people buy that **** up like there is no tomorrow.

As someone said earlier, Rome was not created in a day and even after it was finished there were still major flaws in it.

I think the game is great and I'm coming from WoW, although I havent played that in about a year or two. And one more thing, I don't see how people have all the time in the world to level up non stop. I have a full tme job and I play for a couple hours after work and I still find more and more to do. I haven't reached 50 yet but I'm at 28 with two other 20 level toons that I play with some friends and I feel like I play constantly.

If you beat everything there is to do before the game can release more content then you sadly have no life or still live with your parents.

Just my two cents on this. I haven enjoyed reading all of this and all the arguments though.

EDIT: Not trying to compare an MMO and a FPS, just saying is all.

Guild Wars? LOL? You must mean WoW. Guild Wars is nothing compared to WoW in both categories. Also, Guild Wars isn't an MMO.