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Every patch that doesn't have a LFG tool is costing you players

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Every patch that doesn't have a LFG tool is costing you players

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TeoHTime
02.07.2012 , 10:49 AM | #231
Quote: Originally Posted by AHierophant View Post
I enjoy meeting people, so for someone like me the pool of potential group mates is gigantic.

So you won't have any issue continuing to manually invite people from that massive pool of potential group mates, which a LFG tool does not prevent you from doing, and will not be impacted in the slightest then.

What was your argument against the tool again?

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grueber
02.07.2012 , 10:50 AM | #232
Quote: Originally Posted by Telendria View Post
Im not saying WoW LFD tools is flawless. Like I said, the votekick restrictions are just absurd for example, but ninjalooting happens all the time now anyway, or did people miss threats like "people are needing for companion" or "people ninja items for mods" topics? That happens less in WoW, because LFD has (for levels 60+ atleast) restrictions on what you can and cant need)

LFD tool is in WoW for how long, 2 years now? They can learn fom it and tweak it for their purposes etc.

And if the LFG tool would be server only, no votekick CD WoW LFG tool copy would be completely fine
I've already had multiple instances of people being idiots for loot rolls. Last night I had a marauder roll need on a slotted chest with cunning. Another run had a sage rolling need on a str saber that pissed off the Jedi knight in the group.

People can be just as thoughtless or stupid whether the group is formed via chat or LFD.

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Bluebaronn
02.07.2012 , 10:50 AM | #233
So much negativity for LFD tools! You guys do realize that it was a minority of PEOPLE abusing the anonymous nature of LFD that created so much ill will? The tool itself is fantastic.

I agree with the OP. I am completely in favor of adding a LFD system. I have not been playing this game very long, but I have grouped exactly zero times. It is not from lack of desire or competency but availability.

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Moricthian
02.07.2012 , 10:51 AM | #234
Quote: Originally Posted by AHierophant View Post
Nobody uses it because they've been trained to push a button and have their needs dispensed. They've forgotten how to form a group independent of a Finder. I enjoy meeting people, so for someone like me the pool of potential group mates is gigantic. It's hard to fend for yourself, but I promise you, the reward for making new friends this way is worth it.

I've said it before: not against a server channel nor even a revamp of the lfg tool.
Why do people think the process of forming a group is the only way the can make internet friends? Seriously, if you want to expand your friend list, the implementation of an LFG tool will not stop you.

Just talk and friend people when your actually in the flashpoint. LFG tool just forms a group while you're out doing stuff. If you refuse to talk and chat with your group after it was made, that's your own fault.

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Icebaron
02.07.2012 , 10:51 AM | #235
Quote: Originally Posted by AHierophant View Post
Nobody uses it because they've been trained to push a button and have their needs dispensed. They've forgotten how to form a group independent of a Finder. I enjoy meeting people, so for someone like me the pool of potential group mates is gigantic. It's hard to fend for yourself, but I promise you, the reward for making new friends this way is worth it.

I've said it before: not against a server channel nor even a revamp of the lfg tool.
So, your solution to them not liking something is to tell them how good it is for them? That is fine when a parent tells his child to eat his brocolli, but when I go to a restaurant and pay for my meal, I don't want to hear them lecture me on what I should want and what is good for me.

Create an LFG tool that let's me do something other then stand in the fleet monitoring chat channels, and if anyone doesn't like the tool they can stick to talking up groups.

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samht
02.07.2012 , 10:52 AM | #236
Quote: Originally Posted by grueber View Post
I've already had multiple instances of people being idiots for loot rolls. Last night I had a marauder roll need on a slotted chest with cunning. Another run had a sage rolling need on a str saber that pissed off the Jedi knight in the group.

People can be just as thoughtless or stupid whether the group is formed via chat or LFD.
/agreed
What's up with the no LFG and LFR

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Nighthawked
02.07.2012 , 10:52 AM | #237
I am all for having a LFD tool.

But can you play the game without it? YES
Does BW have other things that NEED priority instead of a new feature? YES

Just give it time. I would prefer bug fixes and patches instead of them spending time on this feature.

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XOrionX
02.07.2012 , 10:52 AM | #238
The LFD debate within the MMO community is almost as heated as the gay marriage vs anti-gay marriage debate in RL. XD

Honestly, a LFD tool could be useful if implemented properly. If it is anything like what WoW has then BW will lose a large portion of players just like Rift did. The debate is THAT HEATED. BW needs to handle this carefully and try to appeal to both sides of the fence on this one.
"Never tell me the odds!" ~Han Solo

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Bazouk
02.07.2012 , 10:53 AM | #239
Quote: Originally Posted by grueber View Post
I've already had multiple instances of people being idiots for loot rolls. Last night I had a marauder roll need on a slotted chest with cunning. Another run had a sage rolling need on a str saber that pissed off the Jedi knight in the group.

People can be just as thoughtless or stupid whether the group is formed via chat or LFD.
you have no one but BW to blame for that. medium armor is fair game to anyone that can wear medium armor FOR THE SIMPLE FACT that is can be altered. if i could have altered it and turned it into an upgrade, i would have rolled need as well. that is not ninja.

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Emeda
02.07.2012 , 10:54 AM | #240
Quote: Originally Posted by samht View Post
I don't know what game you been playing but in wow
1. 1. its not ninjaing if you can roll on the gear, 2 its not ninjaing if didn't setup loot roll before hand. 3. in SWTOR people roll need for their companions all the time.

And a LFD in SWTOR would solve these problems? Didnt think so

2. In wow if someone goes AFK in dungeon, you can kick them, if you can't it doesn't take more then a couple of minutes to get a gm to kick them and then suspend them.

Guess you never seen a 4 hour kick timer or know that you cannot kick someone for the first 15 mins. Yes lets give the GM more things to do when tickets already take days. Think the flashpoint would be over by then

3. The kick system works great in wow, I play a couple of ours of wow a day and rarely have to kick people and I have never been kicked in my life since LFD was implemented.

How would you know any of #2 if you never kicked anyone or been kicked from a group. 2 and 3 show you dont have a clue what you are saying. And please say you read it on the forums that that was the case but missed the 40 billion threads complaining about the LFD.

Honestly, wow LFD tool isn't bad I use it every day I currently have 5 85s and 5 84s, so I have done my share of LFD. Most of the time, I add people to my friend list or run chain dungeons with people i meet in LFD. I have yet to add a person as a friend in SWTOR. I am sorry but most people I have come across in SWTOR are either noobs or jerks.

I had 10 85's with 7 in DS gear so I have also done my fair share of LFD. So you saying that means nothing

If everyone is a noob or jerk then why would you want to group with them anyways.

So basically every point you listed that you thought supported a LFD actually showed why they shouldnt have one. Well done thank you.