Every patch that doesn't have a LFG tool is costing you players

I don't know what game you been playing but in wow
1. 1. its not ninjaing if you can roll on the gear, 2 its not ninjaing if didn't setup loot roll before hand. 3. in SWTOR people roll need for their companions all the time.

2. In wow if someone goes AFK in dungeon, you can kick them, if you can't it doesn't take more then a couple of minutes to get a gm to kick them and then suspend them.

3. The kick system works great in wow, I play a couple of ours of wow a day and rarely have to kick people and I have never been kicked in my life since LFD was implemented.

Honestly, wow LFD tool isn't bad I use it every day I currently have 5 85s and 5 84s, so I have done my share of LFD. Most of the time, I add people to my friend list or run chain dungeons with people i meet in LFD. I have yet to add a person as a friend in SWTOR. I am sorry but most people I have come across in SWTOR are either noobs or jerks.

I hope this is a joke.

The process isnt much different but the problems that arise are the big differences.

The LFG tool they have I think is actually a good design. It allows you to list that you are looking for a group and what one(in notes) and continue to do whatever you were doing without spamming chat. It allows players that are looking for members to see if other players want to run the same flashpoint.

It allows the group to decide the group makeup as in do they just want to get it over for the XP or do they actually want the gear. If I just want to get the XP and reward I can take 4 BH's since no one cares about the loot. If I want the loot from it I can form the group to be a str,will,cun,aim group so that loot is not overlapped.

Use what they have and it will do just fine.

Actually, I didn't play WoW at all. So you can't tell me to "go back to WoW". I played Everquest for years and I remember sitting in Lower Guk, Sebilis, or other dungeons for hours trying to get groups, I certainly don't want to go back to that. When I log on I want to actually be able to play the game I am paying for, and to me, sitting in the fleet for two hours trying to form a flashpoint group doesn't count as playing the game.

Im not saying WoW LFD tools is flawless. Like I said, the votekick restrictions are just absurd for example, but ninjalooting happens all the time now anyway, or did people miss threats like "people are needing for companion" or "people ninja items for mods" topics? That happens less in WoW, because LFD has (for levels 60+ atleast) restrictions on what you can and cant need)

LFD tool is in WoW for how long, 2 years now? They can learn fom it and tweak it for their purposes etc.

And if the LFG tool would be server only, no votekick CD WoW LFG tool copy would be completely fine

Nobody uses it because they've been trained to push a button and have their needs dispensed. They've forgotten how to form a group independent of a Finder. I enjoy meeting people, so for someone like me the pool of potential group mates is gigantic. It's hard to fend for yourself, but I promise you, the reward for making new friends this way is worth it.

I've said it before: not against a server channel nor even a revamp of the lfg tool.

it's really not about all of these little examples of what can go wrong in an lfg group. it's about the logistics of getting a group together in the first place, which at this time (outside of just a handful of servers) make it nearly impossible to get anything done in the time we have to play each day.

It's about satisfying the masses. plain and simple. great arguments are made either way, but the bottom line is if you don't give the masses what they want, the masses go somewhere else.

I'll join the other side of the argument as soon as BW consolidates the servers, but right now at least half of the servers in this game NEED a better tool for finding groups. I don't care if 9 million or 9 thousand people play this game, as long as what i'm trying to do on my server is possible given the population of the server.

right now, it isn't.

Guys, don't be fools

Bioware said they are already adding a LFG feature, not sure when it's going to be avaiable, but in any case, I've already cancelled my subscription and if you feel disgusted by the way this game is being handled, I suggest you let your money do the talking. Don't even waste time trying to argue with the biodrones, they have absolutely no idea what's healthy for a game or not.

I'm not giving BW my money to watch this game fail into oblivion, I'd rather put my money somewhere else.

on the flip side, if you spend 3 hours finding a tank or healer that is a jerk, your not going to kick them becausre you don't want to spend an hour going back to the fleet and another 3 hours looking for a replacement. The groups I have had has put with the jerks and roll need on everything because they wanted to finish the FP one time and not have to deal with it again until they get to the next tier of FP

so, your argument works both ways.

Most succesful MMO with moronic things like LFD/LFR..

Look at wow forums about what those things brought...

ninja/afk/rude people/kick function what doesnt work mostly..

If LFD is comming to Tor, then server only please...or we get what wow has...