If you are 50 and a PvPer, why are you still here?

Quality, not quantity.

Plus if you boil this game down to just its PvP content (which is really what pvpers care about) it's incredibly shallow and repetitive. Especially if you're coming from WoW.

What WoW had in 2004 is irrelevant, it's 2012. The standards are simply different and ToR is competing with WoW (and every other MMO) now, not in 2004.

I think vanilla WoW is better pvp-wise. The world pvp was fantastic whereas in ToR I never got that sense of danger and unpredictability on a pvp server. The gear system was better too (never thought I'd say that) and classes were far more unique.

The only place ToR trumps WoW is story and maybe class balance.

resubbed daoc, having a blast!! thanks swtor for pointing me in the right direction.

gw2 come already

GW2 is every pvpers wet dream. It'll steal the pvp base from ToR really fast.

The only people queuing warzones and zerging Ilum will be backpedaling, clicking, pvers.

Yet...here you are...paying for development here Those of us enjoying THIS game, thank you!

Curious...if GW2 has you so excited....why aren't you playing GW1 right now? Or trolling the GW forums?

GW is just ANOTHER sword and magic game...guess I simply don't understand how anyone could be excited for yet ANOTHER game being released in that fantasy crap setting of middle earth...we already have a billion other MMOs in that EXACT setting.

Just...NO! That may be YOUR wet dream, but I assure you, it isn't mine...but good luck storming the castle.

/agree

This.

I see this in every MMO.

Why all the complaining? You guys are game hoppers and don't even seem to know it. So you're waiting on GW2, fine. But don't dis' this wonderful game because it doesn't meet your unrealistic expectations.

I love the pve aspect of this game. I am rolling alts, lvling to 49, then rerolling another alt. I absolutely love the storylines and the quest cinematics.

That doesnt mean I have to like the options presented at 50 for pvp.

I am answering the original question of this thread.

maybe everyone quiting in the first month should try sticking around long enough to know people

games are better with friends

Aside from guild wars 2 coming out, Planet side 2 will come out this year which will pretty much dominate the pvp scene unless i'm proven wrong by the beta.

Maybe, but with a certain difference:

Vanilla WoW was exciting and a lot of fun with massive multiplayer battles, you didnt got bored already after a month.