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Greatest Force User of All Time

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02.07.2012 , 05:42 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Chuckskyline View Post
Highly doubt it.
Not to mention Luke survived the emperor's force lighting for quite a long time.. considering mace flew out the window in like 3 seconds.
Not to forget that Mace Windu beat Sidious in a duel... but then the spoiled kid Anakin came and whined a bit and ruined everything...

BrandonSM's Avatar

02.07.2012 , 06:23 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Ionin View Post
Palpatine. End of discussion for for powers, for light saber combat, for just about everything.

Force Storm? How has no one mentioned this?

Not the lame one in game, the one that spawns a BLACK HOLE.

it can eat planets, entire star fleets, transport people through time and space, send people into the past, future, from LIGHTYEARS away.

Black Hole > rock, paper, scissor, skywalker(s) et al.

Luke tried to stop his force storm alone and could not. It took a combined effort with Leia to turn it against Palpatine.

Or how about controlling the force enough to cloud the force sight of The ENTIRE Jedi Order. Literally blinding their ability to see the future, all without breaking a sweat.

For god sake, Palpatine is known for having access to every possible force power, and conceiving new ones at will. C'mon people!

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You do know that Luke has actually created a blackhole out a Yuuzan Vhong Vehicle. Luke has the strongest force push, crushing AT-AT's in one push. Is the best duelist in the entire SW Universe. Mastering all 7 forms and creating his own unofficial one. Luke rebuilt an entire fortress with the force and then crushed it using the force.

He scared Darth Caedus by making an image of an entire fleet, even though it was all fake. He was a master illusionist.

See I can quote Wookieepedia too.

During the Battle of Yavin, Luke managed to destroy the first Death Star by letting the Force tell him when to fire his proton torpedoes, while traveling at very high speeds, and not knowing the distance to the port, and having no previous knowledge of proton torpedoes and their abilities. One should note that Luke only had little training with the Force at this time.[7]

Without any guidance except a handbook left by Obi-Wan Kenobi, Luke Skywalker successfully built his first lightsaber, merely three years after he was first introduced to the Force, and undergoing formal training for less than a year. Only a short time after being given a lightsaber by Obi-Wan, Luke was able to instinctively block several blaster bolts fired in rapid succession by a remote, despite his lack of prolonged formal training.

In the battle between the Singing Mountain Clan and the Nightsisters, Luke was almost fatally wounded by a Force attack by Gethzerion and a deep fall, but regenerated in the span of mere hours.[27]

The Grand Master was frighteningly proficient in the use of Force speed, often using the Force to increase the speed of his lightsaber strikes, as seen during his duels with Yuuzhan Vong Supreme Overlord Shimrra Jamaane and UnuThul. With guidance from the voice of Ben Kenobi, Luke gave in to the Force and found that time seemed to slow down considerably, allowing him to dodge Guri's attack and defeat her with ease. Luke would later remark to his students at the Jedi Praxeum that he didn't feel in control of this power and instead felt that it was the Force guiding his actions.

Luke was also skilled in the use of Force Jump, using it to avoid being frozen in carbonite during his duel with Darth Vader.

Luke safely landed himself, Isolder, and Isolder's fighter from a free fall drop from orbit with the Force.[27] During the Battle of Dathomir, Luke flew the Millennium Falcon single-handedly using only the Force, manipulating its controls and operating it with a skill that not even a full crew could manage.[27]

Luke also destroyed a group of hot-wired battle droids just by waving his hand, subtly displacing their master servos and causing the self-destruction of the group of droids.[10][165] This Force power was first manifested by Jedi Master Arca Jeth during the Great Droid Revolution. Even then, with proper instruction, it was a difficult power to master. However, this power apparently came naturally to Luke.

Luke was able to knock down a crippled AT-AT by pressing against it with the Force; he also absorbed the initial cannon blasts from the AT-AT, before deflecting the rest with his lightsaber.[10][165]

During the time when he was re-creating the Jedi Order and was searching for potential candidates, he walked on lava while still throbbing with the Force after defeating a Fireworm living in the lava just moments before. Luke's performance impressed Gantoris so much that he decided to become Luke's apprentice.[15]

During the Eye of Palpatine incident, Luke subconsciously used his Force powers to overcome a particularly vicious form of brainwashing.[30]

During the Death Seed Plague, Luke used the Force to communicate with the sentient crystals Tsils. It is important to remember that the more dissimilar the type of mind, the more difficult it is to communicate with via the Force.[89]

During the Black Fleet Crisis, Luke used the Force to rebuild Darth Vader's old fortress on Coruscant.[92] In addition, Luke later used the Force to crush the rebuilt fortress of Darth Vader to rubble, shattering the building piece by piece and throwing it into the oceans of Coruscant.[94]
Luke Skywalker was one of the most powerful Force users of his time.

While searching for the kidnapped Solo children, Luke used the Force to create an illusion over his face in order to disguise his identity.[91] After the Black Fleet Crisis, with new found knowledge from the White Current, Luke removed the Teljkon Vagabond from view using the Force; however he admitted that he did not know how long it would last.[94] After the Black Fleet Crisis, Luke taught the combined White Current/the Force illusion skill to his more experienced students, which would help shield the entire moon Yavin 4 from intruders during the Yuuzhan Vong War.

After the Senate Building was bombed, Luke stood among the wreckage and was able to divine that his former apprentice, Brakiss, was involved somehow.[95] During the Kueller crisis, Luke prepared himself for death in such a way that he would become a Force ghost.[95] In the middle of a massive midday meal food fight at the Jedi Praxeum's mess hall, Luke instantly froze every morsel, drop and item, solid and liquid in midair as if trapped in time. After scolding the students, he left and with a brief right hand gesture, released the food to fall to the floor for the students to clean up.[81] During the Battle of the Jedi Praxeum Luke used the Force to bolster his students engaged in battle.[113]

In the years before the Yuuzhan Vong War, Luke trained to overcome the Force-Blindness caused by Ysalamiri.[121]

During the Battle of Dantooine during the Yuuzhan Vong War, Luke tricked a vehicle's dovin basals into colliding its own black hole against itself by using the Force to hold the void against the pull of the dovin basals; then reversing the direction of his own pull, adding it to the pull of the dovin basals, so that the void would collide against the spine of the vehicle.[123] During the Battle of Yuuzhan'tar, Luke reached a state of Oneness. He was described as a maelstrom of luminous Force energy, against which there was no shelter. So calm and focused was he that his actions were not interrupted by any thought. Luke merged with the Force to such a degree that the Jedi Master did not seem to be there, physically or as an individual personality. Luke's control over his lightsaber blade was so great that he was said to might as well have been wielding ten, or twenty lightsabers against the Vong.[11] The Solo twins were astounded seeing their uncle in such a state. Luke used a powerful and unique ability of the Force related to his signature green Electric Judgment in the chamber of Shimrra Jamaane. This technique had been described to look like "green sparks," which instantly killed the Slayers.[11]

During the early days of the Dark Nest Crisis, Luke used the Force to generate a lifelike copy of the Jade Shadow to fool the attacking dartships. This usage of the Force was so extreme, Luke burnt out and his face was temporarily sunken and shriveled like Palpatine's.[131] A year later. Luke applied the same trick on the DR919a, but by then Luke already mastered the technique and would no longer burn out.[139]

Toward the end of the Swarm War, Luke used the Force to call all the Jedi across the galaxy to Ossus to make the announcement of him taking on the role as Grand Master of the Jedi Order and to issue his views about the role of the Order to his Jedi.[138]

While battling UnuThul, Luke was able to resist the combined Force power of the Colony and triumph. When UnuThul attempted to Force Push the Grand Master, Luke rooted himself in the heart of the Force so strongly that it was said that he had become the very essence of the immovable object, and that not even the black hole at the center of the galaxy could move him.[138]

On only the trip back to Hapes after Luke dueled Lumiya on Terephon, Luke used a Jedi healing trance to heal most of the damage caused by Lumiya.
Like his father, Luke was an expert pilot.

During the Battle of Kashyyyk, Luke shut his presence down after being fired upon by Jaina to make it seem like he died. Later while Ben was in the Embrace of Pain, Jacen gave Ben back his ability to sense the Force temporarily and Ben felt the life force of his father and realized Luke was shutting himself down to everyone except Ben, something no other Jedi has been able to do.[145] Right before the Battle of Fondor, Luke made Caedus "see" a fleet of ships, causing him to panic in front of his navy. Luke directed it right at Caedus in general, to show him what he could do and also to scare Caedus.[146] Luke revealed to Jaina Solo that he was capable of perceiving Shatterpoints, a very rare Force ability, and taught this ability to Jaina.[147]

In 43.5 ABY, Skywalker learned the "lightning-rod" technique Ayna-seff, which he use to safely travel through the Kathol Rift. After spending time with the Aing-Tii, Luke was taught the Fold space ability which allowed him to teleport objects.[150] Luke was able to use the Blood Trail technique, which he used to track down the Sith apprentice Vestara Khai.[151] During the battle in the Fallanassi village, when Abeloth had Luke in a deadly embrace, Luke opened himself to the Force as much as possible, drawing on his love for his son Ben, his lost wife Mara, and the entire Jedi Order. The Light Side rushed into him, his cells began to burst with power and his skin gave off a golden glow. Luke's power apparently harmed Abeloth and Luke seized the moment by using the Force to bring down a ceiling beam onto Abeloth, then seemingly killed her with his lightsaber.[3]

While looking for Abeloth on Nam Chorios, Luke mastered mnemotherapy.[154]

Upon death, Luke was able to retain his consciousness in the Netherworld of the Force, and could henceforth manifest himself in spirit form.[4]

Luke is G-canon, the most powerful.
Hapan: "This creature has information that could lead us to a woman who has been kidnapped. We will get that information."
Luke: "This woman is a citizen of the New Republic, and if you do not take your hands off her, I will take your hands off you."

Syie's Avatar

02.07.2012 , 08:18 AM | #43
Revan or mace windu

Redeyes's Avatar

02.07.2012 , 08:24 AM | #44
ánakin who else, he is pure force energy, or his ma is a lying bi*** ^^

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02.07.2012 , 08:48 AM | #45
Mace Windu. If it wasn't for a blindside by Anakin he would have killed Sidious.

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02.07.2012 , 08:56 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Grabemx View Post
Mace Windu. If it wasn't for a blindside by Anakin he would have killed Sidious.
Mace Windu was being played and was going out that window regardless. You notice that Yoda was conveniently off-planet when Palpatine's true identity was revealed.

Honestly, if you know any amount of lore at all; Luke is far and away the strongest force user the galaxy has ever seen. You can hate it or love it, but Luke is a force demi-god. Abeloth had to be created to introduce real competition for him.
Overtrebel, a right and proper scoundrel

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02.07.2012 , 09:12 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Valsdad View Post
Mace Windu was being played and was going out that window regardless. You notice that Yoda was conveniently off-planet when Palpatine's true identity was revealed.

Honestly, if you know any amount of lore at all; Luke is far and away the strongest force user the galaxy has ever seen. You can hate it or love it, but Luke is a force demi-god. Abeloth had to be created to introduce real competition for him.
How can he, be the strongest force user, if one part of his parents pure force is and the otherone not force sensetive?

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02.07.2012 , 12:22 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Redeyes View Post
How can he, be the strongest force user, if one part of his parents pure force is and the otherone not force sensetive?
It's canon that he has his father's potential and achieves it. Lucas states as much. To put it simply.. he inherited his force potential from his father.

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02.17.2012 , 12:05 AM | #49
im sorry but Darth vitiate(tenebrae) aka our emperor is the strongest force user of all time.

he consumed the life force of an entire planet to become immortal for crying out loud.

Revan the strongest? Vitiate mindcontrolled revan to do his bidding.

and then his ultimate goal: His entire plans and plots from reforming the Sith Empire to waging an age-old war against the Jedi and the Republic involves his bigger plan to consume all life in the galaxy to destroy every single last threat to his life in the galaxy.

i mean how much more ****** does it get?

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02.17.2012 , 12:49 AM | #50
Going by EU, I'd say Luke is pretty much the greatest Force user ever. Though I'm not sure if you're including crazy beings like Abeloth as well. But as far as Jedi and Sith, it's Luke.