The good old days when people had to work for gear

Remember in AC where gear meant very little.

When a skilled player could take on multiple, better geared, and high level players and win.

Remember when PVP didn't consist of endless CC spam, and when you actually had control of your character the majority of the time? (best way to remove player skill from PVP - remove the players ability to do anything).

And when PVP wasn't in some never ending shoebox sized minigame grind, but in the MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER world. Back when guild politics meant something. When guilds would fight over for control of towns and leveling spots. Back when PVP had meaning. When your actions had consequences.

Back when the skill ceiling was high, when you could dodge projectiles, spells, etc... none of this autohoming crap we have today.

You know, does anyone remember back in the days when PVP was actually good?

Remember in darkfall when...wait doubt anyone does because no one wanted to play an amazing full loot game. *sigh*

Valorite was just a color, stats didnt mean much on crafted gear. So if i had regular iron ingots, valorite ingots, or the black ingots, i still had the same armor on.

Colored ore came in a bit later, yes.

Remember the good old days of Vanilla Wow and EQ when you actually had to work for the gear you earned. And you were HAPPY to do so!

Remember farming countless hours of Alterac Valley turning in Wolf Pelts for reputation so you could, hopefully, a few weeks or a month or 2 down the road have a cool epic weapon!
LOBO!

And the gear meant something!

It wasn't something that people complained about and demanded.

Remember the good old days when you first reached max level in your class, you got roflstomped in PVP by players that rightfully outgeared you.

And you wouldnt complain once. It was understood. You were a newb and needed to get gear. MMO's aren't fair. And thats why you play them. to gear up and be better than those around you.

Where did all this sense of entitlement come into play?

Its ridiculous guys.

Everyone expects free handouts these days.

Remember the good old days of Vanilla Wow and EQ when you actually had to work for the gear you earned. And you were HAPPY to do so!

Valorite was a colored ore. It didn't exist until around Renaisance. And the protection various metals gave didn't go into effect until a little before Age of Shadows hit. Heavy armor, especially plate, was worthless in PvP in Ren times due to the dex penalty, though I did sell light and heavy armor sets and such those were quite popular.

Most PvP took place wearing just either basic clothing or completely naked. Anyone in Valorite armor was just a target to die.

Remember the good old days when you first reached max level in your class, you got roflstomped in PVP by players that rightfully outgeared you.

And you wouldnt complain once. It was understood. You were a newb and needed to get gear. MMO's aren't fair. And thats why you play them. to gear up and be better than those around you.

Where did all this sense of entitlement come into play?

Its ridiculous guys.

Everyone expects free handouts these days.

Remember in AC where gear meant very little.

When a skilled player could take on multiple, better geared, and high level players and win.

Remember when PVP didn't consist of endless CC spam, and when you actually had control of your character the majority of the time? (best way to remove player skill from PVP - remove the players ability to do anything).

And when PVP wasn't in some never ending shoebox sized minigame grind, but in the MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER world. Back when guild politics meant something. When guilds would fight over for control of towns and leveling spots. Back when PVP had meaning. When your actions had consequences.

Back when the skill ceiling was high, when you could dodge projectiles, spells, etc... none of this autohoming crap we have today.

You know, does anyone remember back in the days when PVP was actually good?