The good old days when people had to work for gear

Remember in darkfall when...wait doubt anyone does because no one wanted to play an amazing full loot game. *sigh*

Darkfall, the incredibly sucky PvP game that tried to emulate classic UO but failed on so many levels that everyone lambasted the incompetence of its developers, especially given the fact the game was tooting how it was going to be the next UO and UO killer back since 2000 and it took the game over 8 years to even get to a beta and delivered a product that was barely above Shadowbane?

MMO's aren't fair. And thats why you play them.

Are you asking me if i enjoyed the "good 'ol days" when to have good PvP gear i had to raid?

errr, no.

Go back a bit farther when i could craft my own valorite gear, and stomp you with it.. those were the "good ol days".

First - the valor grind to get BM in this game is not a joke (on a server with an inactive or pointless Ilum, that is). You have to play for a long time. Many of us have been conditioned/trained by other games to play for a long time so it may not seem that long but... it is.

AC1's Darktide server was an experience and a half. I liked the pvp:
Spend 6 min buffing (at any given time you would need 20-50 spells on and many of the spells cost half your mana or something like that), fight for 8 min, spend the next 6 min buffing - if you get jumped in town without buffs you're dead since no guards anywhere. So most ran around town with buffs up... But those buffs cost a lot and you had to spend a lot of time in a town somewhere just buying components.

And while AC1 was all about mastering godmode movement exploits and speed hacks (devs were too slow to fix them - godmode was in there for at least 3 months without a public word from them - I had to leave), I do miss the lack of CCs. CC-spam in Wow is bad enough but SWTOR's is at least 3x worse. I can't imagine who it's "fun" for except those on the outside looking at everyone getting knocked around, stunned, mezzed, flailing on the ground, choked and chain-snared. When I walk away from this game, remembering the CC nightmare will remind me not to look back.

the good old days when you have to have skill, not just gear to win at pvp.

Rip pre-atlantis daoc

Umm, you must be referring to a much later date, because if you were wearing valorite you were just a fun target to kill with an overly expensive piece of useless armor. I don't know how many valorite sets I collected off nubs who ran into PvP expecting it to be better than standard armor. Metals didn't get an improvement till around, what was it, Update 16 or was it 18? So long ago.