What does the 1-49 bracket teach us about PVP gear?

Finally someone else understands how it works. I take a huge hit in dmg/hp when changing from my PvE stuff to my Battlemaster stuff.

WRONG

Rakata geared player does 1000 DPS. Battlemaster geared player does 800 DPS. Your own numbers. Battlemaster player has 13.5% expertise.

Soooo... the Rakata player does 1000 * 0.865 = 865 DPS against the Battlemaster player. The Battlemaster player does 800 * 1.135 = 908 DPS against the Rakata player. Also the Battlemaster player has more health, due to the extra endurance on PvP gear. So all the numbers indicate that, given the same skill level, the Battlemaster player wins against the Rakata player.

Go back to the math class please.

There is no extra endurance on PvP gear, son.

there is LESS, substantially less, depending on the piece.

See below:

http://knotor.com/items/612689 - Battlemaster, 92 endurance

http://knotor.com/items/588288 - Rakata - 105 endurance.

And that's my sniper stuff, with the smallest loss of endurance going from Rakata > Battlemeaster, at "only" losing 13 per main-set piece, and 22 per off-set piece.

Then you get to the ear and implants, where its a difference of almost 35 endurance.

Battlemaster gear has LESS endurance.

There is less endurance on PvP gear... Alot less...

Also you forgot the HUGE crit boost rakata gives ppl like marauders... according to your calculations Rakata does less damage than BM.... In Rakata 3/4 - 9/10 of my attacks are critical hits. I do 67% more damage each critical, not to mention DoT's heal me... SO add that extra damage to the equation... You will see BM still loses out. Tho it is pretty.

If you could derp and hit 1 button all day and get full PvP gear then why arent you fully geared?

I mean I'd love to derp it up and be fully geared... But i keep getting offhanders and relics instead of m boots and bracers!!!!!!!!!!!!

Top PvE gear (Rakata) is an easy match for BM... On my Marauder my Rakata pieces have better armour, better endurance, better strength, and about 40000000000 times the amount of critical bonus.... I dont have expertise but i'll just crit your *** off... The healing boost expertise gives helps ALOT though in PvP. Somethign Rakata doesnt offer.


And I agree. It is too easy. Since release, even before I was geared I have not missed a daily or a weekly... Even if you lose a WZ i rake in 40 - 60 commendations. So in a 20 WZ losing streak i can still get my champ bags and get gear! It too freaking easy...
Yet here we are swamped with supposed "skilled" players, crying because they cant get any gear?
How skilled do you have to be to lose 20 matches? If you as so much win 1 WZ you get approx 90 - comms if not more.

Time to look in the mirror and ask yourself if you really are "skillful" or if you are just a sore loser cry baby that wants the gear without the pain of opening bags and having to earn comms and valor.
My educated guess after reading all the heart felt sob stories they continue to post about it being "so unfair" is most of the people in here fall into the last category.

You mean what wow's based on? serious pvp mmo's that came out in the last years tried to change it but weren't well accepted *looks sadly at WAR*


That guy knows the good stuff.


The ability to do so doesn't make it fun or worthwhile, and bags are being "buffed" next patch anyway.


As much as I find gear dependant gameplay disgusting I think they're on the right track making it more accessible for new 50's not to be so stomped once they get there, the fact we still have to outfit the character with lots of daily comm stuff instead or we insta-die in any 50's wz is kinda sad but oh well.

Not sure if serious.

Or are you seriously trying to argue that the horrible RNG mechanic on bags is directly related to player skill?

Or we'd rather not derp in 20 mindless WZ every single day just to compete with gear.

People like you who think acquiring enough commendations for gear is directly related to player skill, I'd love to meet you in GW2 when it's released and see just how "skillful" you really are when we have the same gear and the same abilities, where all that matters is how well you can play your class and counter my attacks, and vice versa.

I'd have loved to see all these "PVP gear" kiddies run up on me in vanilla WoW at Tarren Mill or Goldshire, and end up getting kited all day despite being at a 2v1 advantage.

Skill players dedicate time, they find a way through the hurdle if htey can't get over it. Games like GW and LOL made you guys lazy, that is all. Even I, who enjoy SB and other games that are not as gear dependent find getting gear on SWTOR ton easier. This is not WoW, cause it doesn't take me weeks to get one piece of top tier gear.

Even losing you get more than enough points to get geared, and that is assuming you lose every game and for some odd reason your team is made up of pure fresh level 50s and always going against a team of full BMs.

If you are talking about a mixed bag and your team, not you in a 1v1 gets decimated every game, then it's not gear, it's skill. You are in your solo mentality still, you suck, gear or no gear. I am not saying the people with gear does not have an advantage, but if you know that already then it shouldn't bother you to lose to them. Cause eventually you'll get a full champ set (took me less than 2 weeks of CASUAL play). And BM gear is not that much better than champ gear, considering you will be slotting most of the mods from Champ set to your BM set anyhow.

Stopped reading here. Time spent doesn't amount to skill. It could arguably lead to becoming more familiar with the class, but seriously? Just how difficult are the mechanics in this game to require any more than levels 1-49 to learn to play your class?

After that, it's just whoever has the most amount of time to spend grinding it out, and has absolutely nothing to do with being skilled. I've seen so many people in full Champion gear and gearing out Battlemaster who honestly don't know what to do after their ability gets canceled and just stand there with their finger up their butt.

Speaking of which, the fact that so many people got Battlemaster by sitting in Ilum all day trading kills with the opposite faction. That equals skill too, I bet. In fact, a good amount of them start bragging about how great they are for being Battlemaster. It's like, dude, you stood in a group and got AOE'd by Republics, respawned and typed /stuck, then AOE'd them back a few minutes later, back and forth, for 10 hours straight. So much skill!