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Dungeon Finder Needed Badly


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Kenmuir
02.06.2012 , 10:12 PM | #951
Quote: Originally Posted by jpswtor View Post
But it already *is* the predominant play style. There is no need to make it even more dominant.
Why is this a problem?(Other than it's different from your view on "how the game should be played").

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Just as it would be a good idea to have a few players chose "republic" for a change, in my opinion it is a good idea to start thinking "how can we improve team play?"
So you solution to "improving team play" is to prevent other people from using a tool that automaticaly puts them in groups? That sounds like hypocrisy.
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and not "how can we improve speed leveling?".
This has nothing to do with an LFG tool.
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They only use it to get to "end game" as quickly as possible.
Where did you make this up?
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They don't care about the story, they don't care about careful character development in a group context, actually role playing their character, because they simply don't want to team up. In a RP game. On an RP server.
Why are you so concerned about how other people play the game? Why must they play the game the same way you do?

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It is like the food industry forcing me to buy lousy crap for Yoghurt because nobody seems to remember, what yoghurt has to be like. They removed it off the shelves, because people enjoy white, tasteless, watery smeer with 0.00001% fat only. If I whine and say "But can't you at least keep one single plain sort of real yoghurt in the shelves?" I get the "nope, the customers dont want it any more" and that's that.
Except, you can still buy other kinds of Yoghurt. It's more like everyone else prefers the "lousy" version of Yoghurt and doesn't like it when you serve it at the Superbowl Party.


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To me it seems, pulling the good stuff from the shelves and advertising crap as lifestyle has pushed the result.
They never removed "your" brand. Everyone else just preferred to use a different brand and you got butthurt that they didn't enjoy the same old school kind you did.

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Just as the LFD tool will marginalize the RPers playstyle to extinction.
How does it do that? I don't get it.

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Touchbass
02.06.2012 , 10:42 PM | #952
There are two groups of people:

1) Those who obtain coitis without payment

2) Those who are unfortunate with their looks and have to pay for coitis

Those who obtain coitis by themselves believe everyone else needs to work harder to get into a group.

/thread
Our lack of a proper LFD tool will black out the sun!
Then we shall cancel our subs in the shade!

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Nijraw
02.06.2012 , 10:52 PM | #953
I agree this games needs a LFG system bad, I am level 49 and only grouped up 5 times and that was with a my guild, my alt is level 33 and has NEVER grouped or did any Flashpoints because I just don't want to wait around reading chat for hours hoping to get picked.

Adding a LFG system will save me time and hassle.

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Majspuffen
02.06.2012 , 11:11 PM | #954
Simplifying the game in this fashion will have a negative impact on the community, PERIOD.

I was playing WoW long before the dungeon finder was introduced, and I was playing WoW long after. My experience past the introduction was sheltered as hell. I didn't talk to anyone unless they were part of my guild.

Because of the need to actually communicate with people on your server in order to get a group, has gotten me to befriend a lot of people. Good people! People that I met on low levels, and that I now play with at end game. It is fantastic! Sure, it may be much harder to find a group but christ, if it isn't more rewarding.


If they ever add a LFG tool, then here's a customer that is going to be extremely disappointed.

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crica
02.07.2012 , 12:09 AM | #955
Quote: Originally Posted by Majspuffen View Post
Simplifying the game in this fashion will have a negative impact on the community, PERIOD.

I was playing WoW long before the dungeon finder was introduced, and I was playing WoW long after. My experience past the introduction was sheltered as hell. I didn't talk to anyone unless they were part of my guild.

Because of the need to actually communicate with people on your server in order to get a group, has gotten me to befriend a lot of people. Good people! People that I met on low levels, and that I now play with at end game. It is fantastic! Sure, it may be much harder to find a group but christ, if it isn't more rewarding.


If they ever add a LFG tool, then here's a customer that is going to be extremely disappointed.
the same players you are grouping with now, w/o using an LFD tool, will be the same players you will be grouping with after the LFD tool is in the game.

Why?

Because you and them obviously have no need for an LFD tool.

The players you are NOT grouping with now, however, will enjoy having an LFD tool to use for getting groups - which will affect you in no way whatsoever.

You are not grouping with them now, and you will not be grouping with them after the LFD tool is in the game.

Why players like you think you will be grouping with players later that you are not grouping with now is a mystery to me.

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Vedious
02.07.2012 , 12:40 AM | #956
idk about u guys but when i play wow and use the lfg system i often use it with other guildies and friends, and when we don t have enough ppl its not a problem because the lfg system will find some1 for us=)

For me community was never lost and i still used the lfg system all the time, so anti lfg ppl so stop being little girls. If you want community so bad u can still have it cause i sure as hell do with wow's lfg.

and btw i even have freinds on other servers that i run with also. So as far as im concerned wow made the community even better

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MalignX
02.07.2012 , 01:25 AM | #957
Awww. The anti's arguments are becoming so feeble and far between, I'm loosing my drive to post here... what will I do?
Just because I do not care, does not mean I do not understand.

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CMKTenThirteen
02.07.2012 , 01:48 AM | #958
I am not saying this is a bad Idea all together I just think there is a laundry list of bugs and features that are needed way ahead of that the top of my list is.

bugs-
-LoS issues when nothing is blocking line of site
-resetting mobs
-unlootable corpses and gathering nodes
Features
-Some system to have armor that matches color scheme aside from yanking mods out of one piece of gear to put in one ya have (since some times the piece of gear you just got has not mods to yank or you can no longer justify the loss of Armor like keeping the same helm to a detriment of 64 armor)
-Legacy Content (at least some)
-Guild banks (yes I know this one is coming)

Honestly while an auto group feature is nice but not needed (ad yes I realize the same can be said for coloring options), if they just fixed the LFG social window so you could see the full comments people have and people used it (both to LFG and LFM) there is nothing stopping people from finding people across the galaxy.

like I said before and will say again and auto group feature is nice but hardly needed and definitely not tops on my list.

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LordRahlik
02.07.2012 , 02:08 AM | #959
Quote: Originally Posted by gaalon View Post
A 2011 sharded MMO without cross-shard LFG-tool is no MMO at all.
Ehum... You are wrong... A MMO *with* any form of lazy mode, crap, I-don't-want-to-join-a-guild, game destroying LFG-tool is a disaster that will bleed players no matter how good the game is in other aspects. We finally have a game where the company has decided against adding a LFG tool and I seriously hope the keep it that way.
Societies in decline tend not to innovate. I just wish we had cellphones to report quests. Guess light speed tech and cell phone tech are mutually exclusive.
I know this image is supposed to be an insult, but it's not.
Two similar games and yet SW:ToR is so much better.

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Neiloch
02.07.2012 , 02:12 AM | #960
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Ehum... You are wrong... A MMO *with* any form of lazy mode
Nope, not lazy, we've only said it dozens of times and laid out in full how it isn't. Try harder.

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crap,
Good one! Still wrong.

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I-don't-want-to-join-a-guild
Wrong again, laid out in full on the first page and reiterated several times through this thread and others.

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game destroying LFG-tool is a disaster that will bleed players no matter how good the game is in other aspects.
What game was DESTROYED by a LFG tool? Name ONE.

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We finally have a game where the company has decided against adding a LFG tool and I seriously hope the keep it that way.
Again, read the front page and realize the depth of your ignorance.



I'm in a guild and I raid three times a week.

I would LOVE a dungeon finder.