If you are 50 and a PvPer, why are you still here?

I guess that would be true if it were true, but its not.

Anyway, I hadn't realized that so much interesting stuff is dropping in the next 2-4 months.

Which makes me question my sub (i only do 1month plans for new games because i'm a Vet and know better than to risk getting burned with a 3-6 month plan).

Tera, GW2, Secret World, are all right around the corner.... and D3 could drop tomorrow or in 20 years... but whenever it does it'll be big too.

And I have other games Multi and Single Player that I could use to fill my time... and not cost me a Sub. The current time i've invested is whats holding me back atm... and the off chance they do fix Ilum/Open World.

I also acknowledge part of the problem is the server imbalance that they can do little about currently... except by allowing transfers, which I just don't see them doing. But none of that makes me want to stick it out.

Well, I am a guild leader and have a two month game time card on my account at the moment. I have a 46 Shadow, 41 Scoundrel, 19 Sage, and 14 Sentinel. I am so bored. I don't even feel there is a reason to hit 50. Why hit 50? So I can gear grind for a month before being able to PvP properly? Only reason I can see to hit 50 is to run stealth groups in Ilum, even then that will get boring pretty fast.

To be honest, I am just waiting on Guild Wars 2 at this point. So are a lot of people in my guild and pretty much all of my officers. We are a mostly PvP guild. TOR is just more of the same old stuff. It's WoW, but even less fun, which is sad.

Really? I played Ultima Online for 2 years, Asheron's Call for 4 years, DAoC for 2 years, and WoW on and off for 7 years (beta), as well as a few others I played for shorter periods of time. TOR can't hold my attention longer than a couple months. Guild Wars 2 is doing something different with the genre. They are breathing life into something that is becoming stale. They are recreating a RvR system, they are making a dynamic event driven leveling system (not questing), they have a global economy with purchase orders, they have 20 known minigames so far (which have cool rewards), they have beautiful art style, they have a vibrant and colorful world (TOR looks washed out), and much more. Maybe you should research about a game before figuring people waiting on it are just "whiners".

Here, educate yourself.

http://www.guildwars2guru.com/forum/...fo-t25557.html

Should be obvious now that qq'ers and malcontents congregate on the forums

Except, that's not the case. Guild Wars 2 just looks amazing and a lot of people who are already becoming bored of TOR are taking notice, especially the PvP population.

huttball

Have about 2 weeks left. Actually I log on for about 5 minutes and end up playing BF3 instead.

This game's always been a filler until GW2 came out. Sadly, it wasn't even enjoyable until GW2's release.

GW2 will have real PVP. The "hardcore PVP" crowd in this game is just a bunch of kids who sit at home all day and grind. No skill involved in the PVP.

PVP gear that gives a single stat that both reduces damage from and increases damage to other players is, was, and always will be one of the worst ideas in MMO history.

Real PVP is skill based, not gear based.

I have never seen game forums w/this much QQ...there is something seriously wrong w/this game don't ya think?

Heck SWG forums after NGE were maybe not this negative. SWG at least even post NGE had the space game w/crafting that is a heck more than SWTOR has for enjoyment at end game.

My Guild, The game, and the PvP is still good for me.

People need to stop saying this. WoW is not the only mmo, it came out in 2004. Its 2012, if you are trying to make a wow clone and you dont release with a full feature set then your game is going to fail.

What PvP do you do? WZs or Ilum? What is enjoyable?